Interview / Interrogation
SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: My name is Lawrence. SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh. SPEAKER_00: And if everybody you actually spoke to the common way. SPEAKER_00: You probably seen the little prince on you? SPEAKER_00: What's your middle initial? SPEAKER_00: And what's your last name? SPEAKER_00: What's your date of birth? SPEAKER_01: Two zero zero three. SPEAKER_00: And what is a good phone number for you? SPEAKER_00: You've got your phone with you? SPEAKER_00: No worries. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Do you have any pictures, any video, anything like that? SPEAKER_00: Any social media posts? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And what's a good address for you? SPEAKER_01: Like SPEAKER_00: Just make somewhere where do you live in SPEAKER_01: right now? SPEAKER_00: Are you here in at the university? SPEAKER_00: What house is that? SPEAKER_00: What do you mean? SPEAKER_00: Is that an apartment or a sorority? SPEAKER_01: It's a it's a house. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: I don't know the sorority. SPEAKER_00: I apologize. SPEAKER_01: I I SPEAKER_00: don't even know if there's any what's there. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So tell me what you know. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: So we there was a semichai party, obviously, as we were drinking. SPEAKER_01: I left to go to my friend's house. SPEAKER_00: When was that party? SPEAKER_01: I think I went there around, like, SPEAKER_00: Last night or this morning? SPEAKER_01: Last night. SPEAKER_01: And then I went to and then me and my friend and then and then we just all went to bed. SPEAKER_01: Was the house you went to for a little bit, and then it was just me, like, who came home and then later. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Is SPEAKER_01: She's a girl. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And are they all in the same place? SPEAKER_00: It is a SPEAKER_01: She has SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Means. SPEAKER_01: Got it. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So you guys were there. SPEAKER_00: You came home early? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: And then She lived her place. SPEAKER_00: Where did she live? SPEAKER_01: She lives, like, down the street. SPEAKER_01: I don't know exactly where it is. SPEAKER_01: And then Maggie and Kaylee came home from the club, and then we all went to bed. SPEAKER_00: What time do you think you got home? SPEAKER_01: I think I got home around 12:30 to one. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Between there. SPEAKER_00: And then what time do you think SPEAKER_01: home? SPEAKER_01: Like, ten, twenty minutes after I did. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And then Maddie and who else came from the Katie. SPEAKER_01: I didn't they came home, like, 01:30. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: And at that point, nothing SPEAKER_01: Nothing weird at all. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: Then everyone's asleep. SPEAKER_01: At 4AM, I, like, look at my phone, and I can hear Kaylee and Murphy, like, dancing because I can tell it's her voice and that it's Murphy because he's barking. SPEAKER_01: And then I hear her go upstairs because you can hear, like, everything. SPEAKER_01: And I heard her say, there is someone here, and I thought she ran downstairs. SPEAKER_01: And then I jumped up and locked my door because I didn't know what else to do. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So Kaylee and Murphy. SPEAKER_00: Murphy's her SPEAKER_01: Murphy. SPEAKER_01: So Kaylee and is Kaylee's ex boyfriend. SPEAKER_01: They share the dog pretty much. SPEAKER_00: And Murphy's the dog? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: What is Kaylee's last name? SPEAKER_00: Goncalves. SPEAKER_00: Oh, boy. SPEAKER_00: Spell that one for me. SPEAKER_01: G o n c l a v e s. SPEAKER_00: And is she here today? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: Was she one of the ones that was hurt? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Where is Kaylee's room compared to yours? SPEAKER_01: Like, right above my shoes. SPEAKER_00: Above. SPEAKER_00: What are you on the first, second? SPEAKER_01: Second. SPEAKER_00: And she's on third? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: And you said that Kaylee and Sharon Murphy? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: And SPEAKER_00: is Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Current? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: He's X-ray now. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Any problems between Keter? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: They're really good, like, friends still. SPEAKER_00: Still play with the dog and stuff like that? SPEAKER_01: Every now and then. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So you hear Kaylee upstairs. SPEAKER_00: She's dancing, playing with the dog. SPEAKER_00: Normal kind of thing, probably. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: And then she says there's someone here? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Once she goes I can hear her go upstairs, and then I can I think she's in her room? SPEAKER_01: She says that someone's here, and I can tell she's scared, and she runs downstairs. SPEAKER_00: Where do you think she ran? SPEAKER_01: I don't know if she ran past the stairs SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Or SPEAKER_01: if she's it was in the living room. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: But you heard her you heard her on the stairs? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: I heard her running, like, super fast down the stairs. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_01: And then I didn't open the door. SPEAKER_01: I just called her name, and I called Xana, Kaylee, and Mogan on my phone. SPEAKER_01: And then SPEAKER_00: What were those other names? SPEAKER_00: Xana? SPEAKER_01: Xana, Maddie sorry. SPEAKER_01: Nicole mug Mogan is Maddie and Kaylee. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: What's the the Alexander's last name is? SPEAKER_01: Kernodele, k e r n o o d l e, I believe. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: And what about Maddie? SPEAKER_01: Mogen, m o g e n. SPEAKER_00: And Kaylee Gomez. SPEAKER_00: Gomez. SPEAKER_00: That's the same one. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Were these three friends? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: We're all roommates. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Who was sharing the room with Kaylee? SPEAKER_01: Kaylee and Mogin are both upstairs. SPEAKER_01: They don't share rooms. SPEAKER_00: They have their own rooms? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: We all have our own rooms. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So these two are up on the 3rd? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Where's Xana? SPEAKER_01: Xana? SPEAKER_01: My floor. SPEAKER_00: Your floor? SPEAKER_01: She's closest to the bathroom or my floor. SPEAKER_00: Bathroom. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So and Katie aren't an issue? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: They're not at all. SPEAKER_00: What about for Xana or Maddie? SPEAKER_00: Are there any guys that are an issue? SPEAKER_00: Any girls that are an issue? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: Maddie has a boyfriend Boise. SPEAKER_01: Super nice. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Xana is dating Ethan who was in the room with her. SPEAKER_01: They're really nice too. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: I apologize. SPEAKER_00: I'm I don't know anybody's name or anything like that. SPEAKER_00: So was Ethan, Xana, Maddie, and Kaylee all upstairs still? SPEAKER_00: Are those the ones that got hurt? SPEAKER_00: Those are the ones that got hurt. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And then the other girl that's here, she's on the 1st Floor. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And was she the one in the yellow hoodie? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: She's over there. SPEAKER_00: So anybody that would wanna hurt Ethan or that's jealous of Ethan? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: Nothing like that? SPEAKER_01: Or have you learned anything? SPEAKER_00: Any cars that were in the area that you can think of that wouldn't have been I SPEAKER_01: don't I wasn't really looking at that. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And you did see anybody come downstairs. SPEAKER_00: Did you hear anything else? SPEAKER_01: I don't even know how they got in. SPEAKER_01: We're usually pretty good about locking doors, and we've never had problems before. SPEAKER_01: Like, it was just really random. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So you're getting home around 12:31. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: You've got Maddie that comes home shortly after. SPEAKER_00: Maddie comes home shortly after that. SPEAKER_00: And then from that point, from about two to four, did you fall asleep? SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_01: I fell asleep. SPEAKER_01: And Kaylee also came in with Maddie at the same time from the club. SPEAKER_00: So between that time, obviously, you're not hearing anything. SPEAKER_01: Uh-uh. SPEAKER_00: You had something to drink, so, obviously, you're gonna sleep a little bit deeper. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And then you hear her. SPEAKER_00: She says what she says. SPEAKER_00: You hear her hitting the stairs. SPEAKER_00: You open the door and cry out to her? SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_00: And then you close the door because you're scared? SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: What happens at that point? SPEAKER_01: I open the door again, and I heard I what I thought was Katie crying in the bathroom, and I heard this man's voice say, it's okay. SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna help you, but it wasn't, like, in a nice way. SPEAKER_01: Like, it was just weird, and it was a voice I've never heard before. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And then I called out to her, and there was there was no crying after that. SPEAKER_01: I don't really know what happened after that. SPEAKER_00: So when you opened the door, you thought you heard Kaylee crying in the bathroom? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: But it could have been Dana, but I thought I thought it was Kaylee at the time. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: I don't know if these questions are really helping, but I'm just right right with the zombie. SPEAKER_00: And you can't you said that you don't recognize the voice? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: And then I opened the door again, and the guy is right there. SPEAKER_01: And he's maybe my height, a few inches taller, not, like, skinny athletic belt. SPEAKER_01: He has all black. SPEAKER_01: He's wearing some masks that covers just his forehead, and here it goes, like, around. SPEAKER_01: He was white. SPEAKER_01: He saw me, and I saw him, and he just left. SPEAKER_01: And he was holding it looked like it was this and this. SPEAKER_01: It's black, and I didn't I didn't think that it was a gun, but now I'm thinking that it probably was. SPEAKER_01: But I was just in and out of it because I was so tired. SPEAKER_00: You say this. SPEAKER_01: Like, it was cylinder like this, and then it went straight out and then in. SPEAKER_01: So I don't mean SPEAKER_00: Almost like a arrow? SPEAKER_00: Or SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Kind of. SPEAKER_01: It was It was weird. SPEAKER_01: I couldn't really I call it, like, a mini vacuum. SPEAKER_01: I don't really know what it was. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And you say you've got your height. SPEAKER_00: How tall are you? SPEAKER_01: I'm five ten. SPEAKER_01: So he's probably around six foot. SPEAKER_00: So he's gonna be the average height? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Any of the girls at all in the house get any kind of freak weirdness going on the last couple weeks that they talked about? SPEAKER_01: It's been all normal. SPEAKER_01: Nothing weird at all. SPEAKER_01: Weird calls. SPEAKER_00: No texts. SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: I mean, nothing weird happens in Moscow usually. SPEAKER_00: Right. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So and I I apologize. SPEAKER_00: I keep backing up just a little bit just to because everything's gonna be jumbled up with you, and I totally get that. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So you hear her dancing. SPEAKER_01: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: You hear her say somebody's here. SPEAKER_00: She goes sounds like she goes through the stairs. SPEAKER_00: You open the door, call to her, close the door, and then you go to open the door because you and hear her crying. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Or at least somebody might have might not have been her. SPEAKER_00: And then did you close the door and then reopen it before you saw him? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: I closed it before I opened opened it it and and saw saw him. SPEAKER_01: Him. SPEAKER_00: From the time that you heard her say there's somebody here to the time that you saw him, how much time do you think? SPEAKER_01: I don't know. SPEAKER_01: I think it was, like, around ten, twenty minutes. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: I mean, I was really out of it. SPEAKER_01: I don't I just everything was kind of blurry. SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't fully remember it, I would say. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: So help me figure out where like I said, I haven't been into the building. SPEAKER_00: Where would your if this if it SPEAKER_01: was a SPEAKER_00: layout of it, where would your apartment be? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So Or your room, I should say. SPEAKER_01: I guess, like, to the doors right here. SPEAKER_00: This is the apartment or the SPEAKER_01: whole It's like a house. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: It's a whole house. SPEAKER_01: Then there's stairs that go up diagonally like this. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Living room. SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh. SPEAKER_01: You're looking at the living room. SPEAKER_01: To the right is the bathroom in Santa's room. SPEAKER_01: Right in front of you is my room and the stairs. SPEAKER_00: On the 2nd Floor. SPEAKER_01: Right? SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: So you've got the stairs that are here on the 2nd Floor. SPEAKER_00: You've got the bathroom here? SPEAKER_01: Bathroom in Santa's room around here. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: My room's, like, right in front of it. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And there's a kitchen. SPEAKER_00: So there's a kitchen. SPEAKER_01: Then there's stairs that go up to the 2nd Floor. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So that's up. SPEAKER_01: And then Katie's room is on you know, going up the stairs. SPEAKER_01: Katie's room's on the left. SPEAKER_00: Up top. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_01: Up top. SPEAKER_01: And Maddie's room is on the right. SPEAKER_01: And there's also a bathroom next to Maddie's room. SPEAKER_00: So your door faces the stairs going down to the bottom? SPEAKER_01: Faces more like, you can you can see SPEAKER_00: them when you look up, but SPEAKER_01: it's not totally facing. SPEAKER_01: It's more like facing like this. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So your door's more over on the side? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: And then I could see, like, the window door that slides open back there. SPEAKER_00: So if you opened your door, where was he at? SPEAKER_01: In between my door and the kitchen. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And I saw him go out the door, I believe. SPEAKER_00: Out the kitchen door? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: And I just remember saying, like, no. SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: And I shut the door and locked it as fast as I could. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So is this is there a deck out back? SPEAKER_00: How SPEAKER_01: It's like just cement, and there's, like, no fence. SPEAKER_01: So I guess anyone could come in on the So SPEAKER_00: is the bottom floor kind of like a daylight basement? SPEAKER_00: So you can come in that floor, and then you go out the back up up one? SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So 510, all black. SPEAKER_00: Could you see what color his eyebrows were or anything like that? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: I don't remember what his eyes look like either. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: He didn't say anything to you? SPEAKER_01: I mean, I saw I saw his eyes, and he saw me, but he didn't walk towards me and didn't see anything Okay. SPEAKER_01: Which I found was really weird. SPEAKER_00: But didn't recognize eyes. SPEAKER_00: Definitely a white guy? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Definitely a white guy. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Any smells, anything like that that would be weird? SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: After he usually left, what happened? SPEAKER_01: I and was like, I heard it sound like a firework, and I didn't, like, put two and two together. SPEAKER_01: And so I told her, like, I called everyone. SPEAKER_01: They're not answering, and I'm in and out of it. SPEAKER_01: I don't think anything of it. SPEAKER_01: I just think everyone's asleep. SPEAKER_01: And I go to her room, we lock the door, and just go to bed. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And then this morning, it's, like, eleven or twelve, and we're calling everyone, and no one's waking up. SPEAKER_01: And we have, like, really bad feeling. SPEAKER_01: So I called and he said, you need to call the cops right SPEAKER_00: now. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: We he wouldn't let us see what happened because he didn't want us to SPEAKER_00: see Close. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Your house go ahead. SPEAKER_01: Just girls. SPEAKER_00: Just girls. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_01: She so Xana is on the same floor as me. SPEAKER_01: 1st Floor, Mugen, the key to the other 3rd Floor. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: That's what that's what I'm missing out. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Did you hear a car start up? SPEAKER_00: Nothing like that after the fact? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_00: And then no one has has anybody seen anything then? SPEAKER_00: Any social media posts? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: Anybody talking about anything? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: At the Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Anything weird, strange, not normal? SPEAKER_00: Did they get angry with anybody? SPEAKER_00: Anybody? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: It was just normal. SPEAKER_01: Like, everything everyone seemed fine. SPEAKER_01: Xana and Ethan were with me, and it was totally normal. SPEAKER_00: Like, there SPEAKER_01: was nothing weird or out of place or suspicious. SPEAKER_00: Nobody hooked up that might have a boyfriend that wouldn't be Mm-mm. SPEAKER_00: Pissed off at him or something? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: Anything else you can think of that I should know? SPEAKER_01: All that I really know was me saying that there was, like, a lot of boom, but I didn't hear it. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And I don't really know how I did it because I was on that floor. SPEAKER_00: Because you were just right below it. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_01: Below me and Dana and me on the same floor. SPEAKER_01: So, like, Dana and me, same the same floor. SPEAKER_01: Oh, I get you. SPEAKER_01: Down here. SPEAKER_00: Santa's in between the bathroom and the kitchen? SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_01: Pretty much. SPEAKER_01: There's, like, a wall, and there's kitchen. SPEAKER_01: Then that's for a bathroom. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Anybody else on your floor? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_00: And then downstairs on the first? SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_00: And then up on the third was I just moved there. SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh. SPEAKER_01: Kaylee and Maddie. SPEAKER_00: Kaylee and Maddie. SPEAKER_00: Those are both on the third? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Similar layout where one is one bedroom over the other? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: So Kaylee's room was here, bathroom in the corner, and then Morgan's room. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So Morgan would be over Xana's room SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_00: Ish? SPEAKER_01: Ish. SPEAKER_01: I think so. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And I guess Kay would be above my room, I'm thinking. SPEAKER_00: So Xana is on your floor, but she was upstairs with Kaylee and Morgan. SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: She was in her room. SPEAKER_00: She was in her room? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And Ethan was in SPEAKER_00: Her room. SPEAKER_01: Xana's room as well. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So you had two of them there, then two of them onethree. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Got it. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Will give you this just in case you think of anything else, which Okay. SPEAKER_00: Is totally normal Okay. SPEAKER_00: To just have th