Interview / Interrogation
SPEAKER_00: Corded. SPEAKER_00: Red light's on. SPEAKER_00: Can you state your name for me? SPEAKER_00: My name K. SPEAKER_00: Let me make sure I get spelling correctly. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: So first name Correct? SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_00: What's your What's your date of birth? SPEAKER_01: 2001. SPEAKER_00: Good phone number for you. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Do you have that's your phone right there. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: Real quick before we get into that, um, what's what's your relationship to the the victims? SPEAKER_00: Sarah is my best friend. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Ethan is her boyfriend, who's also one of my best friends. SPEAKER_00: And Maddie, Rogan, and Kaylee are great friends to all of us too was because they live with them. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Um, are you in a were they all in a sorority? SPEAKER_01: We were all me and Sam and I are not anymore. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Um, what about Ethan? SPEAKER_01: And Logan's not in it anymore. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Ethan is in, um, SPEAKER_01: along with his brother, super. SPEAKER_01: It is. SPEAKER_00: I'll get you some tissues if you need them. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Are you sure? SPEAKER_00: Sure. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Let me know if you need some. SPEAKER_00: Alright? SPEAKER_00: Again, this is not if you need a minute, take a minute. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So at the end of all this, we're gonna seize your phone as evidence. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Just understand that this this is procedure for us. SPEAKER_00: K? SPEAKER_00: Doesn't mean we're looking at you or anything like that. SPEAKER_00: It's just this really helps us kinda narrow it down. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: So is that just is that an iPhone? SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: What model is it? SPEAKER_01: Um, I think it's the ego. SPEAKER_00: You can take all this. SPEAKER_01: It should be. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: I think it's the o seven. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Does it have a passcode on it? SPEAKER_00: It does. SPEAKER_00: What's your passcode? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So your social media, what kind of social media do you So why don't we just kinda start with yesterday? SPEAKER_00: Did you go to a football game or anything? SPEAKER_01: I was at the game working. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And why don't you start with kinda about the time you left the football game, like, new wrap up. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Just best as you can recall, just kinda walk me through the rest of your evening. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_01: After the football well, I got to leave early. SPEAKER_01: I left probably five minutes after halftime, and I walked home from the dome. SPEAKER_01: I went and said hello to all of my other friends in a different apartment, um, right next to where I live. SPEAKER_00: Where do you live? SPEAKER_00: I Gotcha. SPEAKER_01: And I was there for maybe an hour or two. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: And I went home, and it was about 08:30. SPEAKER_01: And me and SPEAKER_00: So when you when did you get to your apartment? SPEAKER_01: 08:30. SPEAKER_01: 08:30. SPEAKER_01: Well, after visiting my friends. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So you went inside your friends, and then you got to your apartment about 08:30? SPEAKER_00: And none of none of them were there. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: It's about 08:30, and who are all here. SPEAKER_00: There's two here. SPEAKER_00: Johnson. SPEAKER_01: We all slept. SPEAKER_01: We all went to bed SPEAKER_00: at, like, super early at 08:30. SPEAKER_01: We were gonna go to the lodge party, but we just didn't go. SPEAKER_01: To what party? SPEAKER_01: There was a lodge party. SPEAKER_01: We didn't make it there. SPEAKER_01: I know that this morning I saw Snapchat of Xana and them there. SPEAKER_01: So know that they were there. SPEAKER_00: What can you kinda tell me what is a lodge party SPEAKER_01: in the A lodge party is a it's just like they host, and they have their house is all apartment styles, and then it's there's a big center, and that's just their lodge. SPEAKER_01: So they just have people SPEAKER_00: come over to the lodge SPEAKER_01: pretty much. SPEAKER_01: That's it. SPEAKER_01: Is it the park? SPEAKER_01: It's just like SPEAKER_00: No no special significance to it? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Um, so you guys slept. SPEAKER_00: Um, what time did you wake up? SPEAKER_01: 01:30AM. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_01: We we woke me woke up at 01:30. SPEAKER_01: We stayed up for at our own apartment just doing nothing. SPEAKER_01: We were watching TV probably till, like, three, and then woke up, and we all hung out for another hour, and then we all went back to bed. SPEAKER_00: Nothing out of the ordinary between that, you know, that time you guys are awake? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: Nothing at all? SPEAKER_00: No phone calls, text messages, nothing like that? SPEAKER_00: Uh-uh. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So after you guys went back to bed, what time did you wake up? SPEAKER_01: This morning? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: 10:30AM. SPEAKER_01: 10:30. SPEAKER_01: Probably around that time. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: What you gonna do the rest of the morning, Matthew? SPEAKER_01: So called me. SPEAKER_01: I can't recall the time I could look. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: Do you want me to look? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't mind. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Called me at 11:51. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_01: And said, she is my little. SPEAKER_01: So, um, she called and said that last night around 4AM, she heard and saw a man, and she and were locked in their room sleeping. SPEAKER_01: And they woke up, and she wanted me to come over and check the house because she was too scared. SPEAKER_00: So you said I'm sorry. SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: We're locked in the room? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: I'll come over. SPEAKER_00: And that was 11:51, you said. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So they saw and heard a man? SPEAKER_00: Did they did they SPEAKER_01: They saw saw a man last night around 4AM. SPEAKER_01: She saw Kaylee scream and go up the stairs. SPEAKER_01: And So this is Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: So she saw a man and then heard Kaylee scream? SPEAKER_01: Kaylee scream and run up the stairs because she loves upstairs. SPEAKER_01: Kaylee does. SPEAKER_00: And run upstairs. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_01: Ran into locked themselves in it. SPEAKER_01: And then, oh, she was screaming their names, and she didn't hear anything. SPEAKER_01: So a while later, she came back out to check, and I guess the man was standing right there staring at her. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: So, um, let me kinda just back up just a just a hair here. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Um, so she said that she saw Kaylee run upstairs and that Kaylee was screaming for SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: She was screaming. SPEAKER_01: Just screaming? SPEAKER_01: Screaming that she said that there's a man here. SPEAKER_01: There's someone in the house. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: That kind of stuff. SPEAKER_00: And this is all right around 4AM? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Then go ahead. SPEAKER_01: And she opened the door a while later to check, and I guess the man was staring at her, and she didn't know what to do. SPEAKER_01: And the man didn't do anything to her and just so she went back into the room, and she heard the side back door close. SPEAKER_01: So she thought that they were gone. SPEAKER_01: So they went to sleep. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: Then called me in the morning to come check out the SPEAKER_00: check out the house. SPEAKER_00: You said it was a side door she heard open, like, a sliding SPEAKER_01: glass door? SPEAKER_01: On the 2nd Floor. SPEAKER_01: It's in the kitchen. SPEAKER_01: It's a sliding door Sliding the back. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Then they just went back to bed. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Did she say why she didn't think to call anybody when that when it was going on? SPEAKER_01: Um, I didn't ask her that, but I was just talking to her, and I was like, well, do you what? SPEAKER_01: You look blah blah blah stuff, and she said that she almost didn't, like, wanna believe it because she said, a, I was a little drunk. SPEAKER_01: B, I didn't think anything of it because your brain just doesn't make sense of that because why would it? SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_01: And then I was like, well, do you know, like, she said that he had some mask on where you could only see like, it was like, it goes over here and over here. SPEAKER_01: She could really only see his eyes and nose. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: That's all she said about him. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: So then once once she called you, then what then what happened? SPEAKER_01: She just said, SPEAKER_00: come over. SPEAKER_00: Check it out. SPEAKER_00: I was like, okay. SPEAKER_00: I'll be right there. SPEAKER_01: Went over there immediately. SPEAKER_01: I went to the bathroom, and we walked over there. SPEAKER_01: And I went upstairs because she said, Dana and Ethan were not picking up. SPEAKER_01: And I was up there and he grabbed me and told me that I didn't wanna see it. SPEAKER_01: And so I never went in there. SPEAKER_01: And then the police arrived. SPEAKER_00: So you were just down were you downstairs? SPEAKER_01: I went upstairs. SPEAKER_01: They were all outside. SPEAKER_01: I went upstairs. SPEAKER_01: I was in their room. SPEAKER_01: Mhmm. SPEAKER_01: And he came out and said that I really didn't wanna see it. SPEAKER_01: So SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Did you so actually went in? SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: Did you see anything? SPEAKER_00: I mean, when you were walking in there, did you see anything that would have been seen out of the ordinary to you? SPEAKER_01: Well, they had they didn't do anything last night except for the night before they threw a big party, so it was like a mess. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: But it's always a mess when they throw a party. SPEAKER_00: That was a Friday night? SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_01: Because it was their it was their normals. SPEAKER_01: On Friday? SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_01: So but Santa and Logan and Kaylee, they're not all in the story, neither am I. SPEAKER_01: Mhmm. SPEAKER_01: But they hosted it for the for Okay. SPEAKER_01: Like, the pregame before. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: I see. SPEAKER_00: I SPEAKER_01: see. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: The only thing there was a knife on the floor, right, immediately when I walked in. SPEAKER_00: Where so explain to me SPEAKER_01: Which, I mean, like, that could be normal, but, um, you walk in, you go up the stairs right here, and then it's the living room. SPEAKER_01: You go down the hallway and it's Anna's room. SPEAKER_01: There was a knife right there on the floor. SPEAKER_00: Like, in front of their room? SPEAKER_01: In front of just at the top of the stairs. SPEAKER_00: Top of stairs. SPEAKER_01: Which I don't know why there would be. SPEAKER_01: What SPEAKER_00: kind of knife? SPEAKER_00: Do you remember? SPEAKER_01: Like, a steak knife. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: Can I cancel this? SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_01: Go ahead. SPEAKER_00: Anything else besides the house being a mess? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: I didn't really go in further. SPEAKER_01: I just saw the living room. SPEAKER_01: There's, I don't know, the solo cups were on the ground instead of on the table. SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_01: But don't know. SPEAKER_01: Like, they could have been knocked off by something. SPEAKER_01: But SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: So once you once did you stay on scene until the officers arrived? SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: You stay outside? SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_00: And then you guys I'm assuming you just came here? SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_00: Did you SPEAKER_01: make any stops in between here and there? SPEAKER_01: We went to my apartment Mhmm. SPEAKER_01: All of us as as a group to get some pants and change the clothes Okay. SPEAKER_01: For the other girls that did not Okay. SPEAKER_01: Could not come back in. SPEAKER_00: I see. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, I'm assuming you talked to folks or maybe who would be told that's what's kinda what's going on? SPEAKER_00: So SPEAKER_01: he can't he's I don't know. SPEAKER_01: And my mother is flying back. SPEAKER_01: She moved recently, so she's flying back. SPEAKER_01: She probably I sent them a text and said, SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you saw the vandal alert, but I'm safe for the police officers, but I didn't tell them anything. SPEAKER_01: I don't think that they've seen it yet. SPEAKER_01: So Okay. SPEAKER_00: I mean, this may seem like a weird question. SPEAKER_00: It may not, but who who would do something like this? SPEAKER_01: I couldn't even imagine. SPEAKER_01: I would I would say absolutely no one. SPEAKER_01: Zayna is the most loved person on this campus. SPEAKER_01: So SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: What's what's Zayna's background? SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, what is she? SPEAKER_00: Is she on any sports teams on the you know, I mean, like, what's her involvement on campus? SPEAKER_01: She did, um, let's see. SPEAKER_01: What is it called for business, but she's part of that group. SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Like, BPA kind of a deal? SPEAKER_00: Or It's SPEAKER_01: I can't remember what it's called. SPEAKER_01: It's Vandal Something for business. SPEAKER_01: She's a part of that team. SPEAKER_00: You don't have to remember the name of it. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: But that's about her only involvement. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And she's a correct? SPEAKER_01: She was me and her are our best not anymore. SPEAKER_00: So there's no has there been any amongst the amongst the four of them, was there anyone that they were having a beef with? SPEAKER_00: Was there any sort of rivalries or stalking behavior or anything you can think of that's on even even just kinda like, yeah. SPEAKER_00: It's weird. SPEAKER_00: I saw this guy, you know, or, you know, had a confrontation at the bar. SPEAKER_00: Anything like that that you can think of that they have told you? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: We only really ever hang out with each other. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So nothing then nobody you can think of. SPEAKER_00: Ethan's is do you know if they have anything going on with, um, any other fraternity? SPEAKER_00: Did did they have a you know, did he recently break up with someone or recently get a girlfriend or anything like that? SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm. SPEAKER_00: He's SPEAKER_01: been with Santa for a while now. SPEAKER_00: A long time. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And we can our our friend group, at least, that we have, we're friends with all of the fraternities. SPEAKER_01: So they get those boys get along with all of our other fraternity friends. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So nothing nothing even came through at all? SPEAKER_00: Did you you said you mentioned, um, that they were out at the lodge party that was after the football game. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: Do you know if they went anywhere else? SPEAKER_01: I I don't know. SPEAKER_01: I was sleeping. SPEAKER_01: I just saw when I woke up in the middle of the night that they were still at the lodge still Mhmm. SPEAKER_01: Around, like, 01:30. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: So SPEAKER_00: And that was all four of them. SPEAKER_00: Correct? SPEAKER_01: Um, I just saw, um, a picture or video of Xana, but that would absolutely imply that Ethan was there with her. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And you said that was around SPEAKER_01: one ish in the morning? SPEAKER_01: And I did not see or hear from Kaylee or Mogan the entire night. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Maddie Mogan. SPEAKER_00: And you saw that video was on Snapchat? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: I can't remember who put it on their story. SPEAKER_00: But okay. SPEAKER_00: Is there anything else you can think of, um, if you want you want us to know about one, tell us? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: I just can't imagine. SPEAKER_01: I don't think that there is anything SPEAKER_00: I'm with you. SPEAKER_01: That I've ever heard from them recently. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: So going forward, if you wanna send your folks a text real quick, let them know that we're gonna be taking your phone so that way they don't try to call you in in a panic. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Just let them know that Moscow PD is gonna have your phone. SPEAKER_00: And just so you know, we'll get back to you as soon as we can. SPEAKER_00: K? SPEAKER_00: Um, we're just gonna be looking for stuff that might give us an insight into who would have done this. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna put this on airplane I'm gonna take down your serial number here too. SPEAKER_00: Sure. SPEAKER_00: Find one on here. SPEAKER_00: Of course, yeah. SPEAKER_00: So I'll make sure I detail this as good as I can. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: So so in the meantime, obviously, you can still log on to your social media on the computer or something. SPEAKER_00: Just do us a favor and, um, obviously hold off from posting anything about this on on not that you would, but, um, we wanna try to keep the notifications that we have to make through SPEAKER_01: the Do you know he sent out the whole message to the entire university? SPEAKER_00: Uh, I have no idea. SPEAKER_00: That's something that campus that that's their their deal. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Um, Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So that's something we're actually required by law. SPEAKER_00: If there's a threat to campus, it's part of, like, the whole title nine and all that stuff. SPEAKER_00: We have to alert folks. SPEAKER_00: So Have SPEAKER_01: you guys contacted my father? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: I don't think so. SPEAKER_00: That's why we wanna keep you cool. SPEAKER_01: In town. SPEAKER_01: He lives in he lives in Arizona, but SPEAKER_00: it's her sister's. SPEAKER_00: Parents would get. SPEAKER_01: Parents would get so easy. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And they were supposed to have breakfast, so I don't know. SPEAKER_01: It's probably pretty bad that she's not answering. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: That's usually when something like this happens. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: As soon as we get an identification on who the victim is Yeah. SPEAKER_00: We try to send, uh, uniformed officers to go find them and tell them. SPEAKER_00: We don't do it over the phone unless it's absolutely necessary. SPEAKER_00: That's one of the reasons I ask folks to just hold off post anything because the last thing we want is for people to find out on social media. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Um, not that they should ever find out about something like this, but we wanna make sure that it's done SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: As proper as possibly thinking. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So you're welcome to stay here with your friends while we interview the rest of them. SPEAKER_00: Might not be a bad idea. SPEAKER_00: The campus is gonna have a lot of resources for you guys. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Use them. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: And and you can be the one that helps convince the your friends. SPEAKER_00: The guys generally don't take the help as much. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: You guys all need to talk through this and taking off the detective hat for a minute. SPEAKER_00: Um, this is something that's gonna take you guys some time. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: It's okay to go through the emotions. SPEAKER_00: If you need anything, call us. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: We can eithe