Interview / Interrogation
SPEAKER_00: The last time I saw you, I can't remember. SPEAKER_01: Can't remember? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: Is everything okay? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Absolutely. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: Why why do you think we're here to talk to you? SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: So you said you you don't know him, though? SPEAKER_00: I I I we are Right. SPEAKER_00: I think he's black. SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, I think I've met him couple of that. SPEAKER_01: Do you know his name? SPEAKER_00: To be honest, today is not a good day for me. SPEAKER_00: So probably forgotten his name. SPEAKER_00: I don't know. SPEAKER_00: I had an accident today because of the snow I was driving, and then I veered off the road. SPEAKER_00: And I'm feeling sick right now. SPEAKER_00: So Okay. SPEAKER_00: I don't know his name. SPEAKER_02: You don't know his name? SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: He might probably he might probably mention his name from before, but trying to remember. SPEAKER_01: So I just want SPEAKER_00: at African Student Association. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Oh, is he a member of that? SPEAKER_00: Yes, Okay. SPEAKER_01: So I just wanna be honest. SPEAKER_01: Like, you're not in trouble for anything right now. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: You are not in trouble. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: But we're trying to get to the bottom of something. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And you can help us with that. SPEAKER_01: And if and that's our goal is to identify who this guy is. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Because we know you were with him. SPEAKER_00: I was with SPEAKER_02: him? SPEAKER_02: Yes. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: We know you were. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: We know you SPEAKER_00: were. SPEAKER_00: Right. SPEAKER_02: He's been in your car SPEAKER_01: multiple times. SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: He's multiple times? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: That's like, when was the last time? SPEAKER_01: So do you do you know his name or not? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: I'm getting scared right now. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Don't be listen. SPEAKER_02: Listen. SPEAKER_02: Don't be scared. SPEAKER_02: Okay? SPEAKER_02: You are in no trouble right now. SPEAKER_02: Alright? SPEAKER_02: Right now. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Right now. SPEAKER_02: Right? SPEAKER_02: Right. SPEAKER_02: You're you're not in any trouble. SPEAKER_01: You're not in trouble. SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't have handcuffs on me. SPEAKER_01: I don't have anything like that. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: You're not in trouble. SPEAKER_01: You're not gonna be going to jail or anything like that. SPEAKER_01: But this guy, you know We want to talk to him. SPEAKER_01: We wanna talk to him. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: So we just need to know his name and maybe his phone number to get ahold of him to get to talk SPEAKER_00: to him. SPEAKER_00: Uh, to be honest, this is this is open. SPEAKER_01: How can we, SPEAKER_00: like What like, can you tell me why? SPEAKER_00: Because I don't know. SPEAKER_00: I know you guys are detectives. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_00: If you can give me more information SPEAKER_01: Like, you you obviously know what happened on campus. SPEAKER_00: What happened? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: The the students. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: So we're not talking about that. SPEAKER_01: This is something else. SPEAKER_02: We're not here about that. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: This is something else. SPEAKER_02: Does that put you at ease a little bit, Mark? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: I think so. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Good. SPEAKER_01: So I have no problem. SPEAKER_01: Here's what I need here's what I need to know from you. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: If we tell you why we're here, right, because when we in it when we talk to people, we wanna know we wanna gauge how cooperative that person is going to be. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: K? SPEAKER_00: And I've been here in Moscow for three years and Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Never any trouble. SPEAKER_01: Time. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So I don't really SPEAKER_01: So this guy was on video camera following a girl around a SPEAKER_00: store. SPEAKER_00: Oh, following a girl? SPEAKER_01: Mhmm. SPEAKER_01: And we need to talk to him about why he was following her around. SPEAKER_01: That's why we need to talk to SPEAKER_00: Well, stalking, I think. SPEAKER_00: Is that how you call it? SPEAKER_01: Uh, Yeah. SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't I don't know if we would call it I I stalking. SPEAKER_01: It was just a little bit suspicious, and, you know, we received a complaint that we have to follow-up on that, you know, this guy was following her around. SPEAKER_00: Did he head the gill or something? SPEAKER_00: Did he what? SPEAKER_00: Did he head the gill? SPEAKER_01: Did he hit her? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Oh. SPEAKER_00: Did anything happen to the girl? SPEAKER_01: Not not yet. SPEAKER_01: I don't know. SPEAKER_01: You know? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Because So let me ask you this. SPEAKER_00: It's too tight for this shit, man. SPEAKER_00: I'm so scared. SPEAKER_00: I just don't like to be in trouble. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_02: Right. SPEAKER_02: Not in You're not SPEAKER_01: in trouble, Kurt. SPEAKER_02: Okay? SPEAKER_02: Seriously. SPEAKER_02: I'm not trying to pull the wool over your eyes or anything else. SPEAKER_02: And SPEAKER_01: we're not trying to get you in trouble. SPEAKER_01: Correct. SPEAKER_01: The only the only part in this that you have is you were with this guy. SPEAKER_01: I was with him. SPEAKER_01: You gave him a ride. SPEAKER_01: We know that. SPEAKER_01: It's on video. SPEAKER_02: We have you two getting in and out of a SPEAKER_01: car Together. SPEAKER_01: Together. SPEAKER_01: And so we just need to talk to this guy. SPEAKER_02: And when we go talk to him, your name is never gonna be mentioned because the only the only way we are able to identify him, we believe, right SPEAKER_01: now is through you. SPEAKER_00: It's through me? SPEAKER_02: Yes. SPEAKER_02: Because you know him. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: I've met him a couple of them. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: You've given him a ride in your car. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So SPEAKER_02: K. SPEAKER_02: Sure. SPEAKER_02: We have you guys on video. SPEAKER_02: You're pretty chummy. SPEAKER_02: You know? SPEAKER_02: You guys look like you get along really well. SPEAKER_02: So Yes. SPEAKER_02: We would really appreciate you if you'd help us out. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: You're not I'm telling you SPEAKER_01: right now, you're not in any trouble. SPEAKER_00: Is he gonna be in trouble? SPEAKER_01: We gotta talk to him. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Because right now, it's just, you know, he's on video following the girl around. SPEAKER_01: She said, hey. SPEAKER_01: This guy followed me around. SPEAKER_01: So we just need to go talk to him. SPEAKER_01: Like, you know Can SPEAKER_00: I know the name of the girl? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: I'll give you a probability. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Probably what's gonna happen with him is we go talk to him and say, hey. SPEAKER_00: Stop putting yeah. SPEAKER_01: Quit doing this. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Stop doing this. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: Because especially with the waste with the stuff that happened, you know, everyone is very, you know, on edge. SPEAKER_01: Right? SPEAKER_01: They're very tensed up. SPEAKER_01: You know? SPEAKER_01: So people are are calling all kinds of things in. SPEAKER_01: You know? SPEAKER_01: And so this guy called in, so we just need to talk to him. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: I know him. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: His name is Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So SPEAKER_01: What's his what's his last name? SPEAKER_02: So is that correct? SPEAKER_02: Yes, please. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Do you have his phone number? SPEAKER_00: Uh, Yeah. SPEAKER_00: I SPEAKER_01: do. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Can we get that from Let me ask you this. SPEAKER_01: Is he your roommate? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: He's not. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: He's not your roommate. SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And can we can we have his phone number? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: And you don't have any weapons in the house or anything like that? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: My king knife. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Gotcha. SPEAKER_01: That's fine. SPEAKER_00: Do you wanna follow me? SPEAKER_00: It's just fine. SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: I I'll trust you. SPEAKER_01: I'll trust you. SPEAKER_00: And how many times has he been following the girl? SPEAKER_01: I mean, we can't tell you everything. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Because sometimes, you know, we are guys. SPEAKER_00: And Sure. SPEAKER_00: He came in, and sometimes she talks to me, oh, he's looking for a girlfriend. SPEAKER_00: I think, yeah, you know, those kind of got messed up too. SPEAKER_01: Hang on just a SPEAKER_00: second. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Do you know if he drives a car at all? SPEAKER_00: He drives. SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: He just I mean, he just he doesn't drive. SPEAKER_00: He doesn't have a driver's license. SPEAKER_00: So SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Does he have a, um, an ID card besides like, does he have a Idaho does he go to school? SPEAKER_01: He goes to school here? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: He's a student. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: How long has he you said you've been going to school here for three years? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: How long has he been here? SPEAKER_00: I have to be totally honest with you guys. SPEAKER_00: Some of these informations, I think you can get it from the school. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: So that it doesn't look like I don't know how to say it. SPEAKER_02: Right. SPEAKER_02: Right. SPEAKER_02: Right. SPEAKER_02: So what program is he SPEAKER_00: in? SPEAKER_00: I think in Jirai. SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's easy. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: So, like like, now that we have his name, of course, we can go to the school, and we can get a lot of information and stuff like that. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Because to be honest, that's how we found you. SPEAKER_02: Through the Yep. SPEAKER_01: Mhmm. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_00: So SPEAKER_01: it's through the through the school, and then, like like we said, we have on video him getting into your car. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Right? SPEAKER_01: Your car has a license plate on it. SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh. SPEAKER_01: Right? SPEAKER_01: And Yep. SPEAKER_01: You know, you did a good job. SPEAKER_01: You registered your vehicle like you're supposed to at the house that you live at. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: So that's how we came here SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Was to to talk to you. SPEAKER_01: So what what's making you the most nervous right now? SPEAKER_00: Because I don't know what to be involved in any company. SPEAKER_00: You know? SPEAKER_00: Sure. SPEAKER_00: Try as much as possible. SPEAKER_00: Sure. SPEAKER_00: The cop is asking me SPEAKER_01: questions. SPEAKER_01: So let me tell you this. SPEAKER_01: If I tell you right now that you're not gonna be in any trouble for anything that happened, uh, that we have on video, if I tell you that right now, will you tell me the real story of what you guys are doing at at WinCo? SPEAKER_00: A real story? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Were you guys just? SPEAKER_00: Oh, we just went grocery shopping, actually. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And were you, like SPEAKER_00: on Fridays. SPEAKER_01: Were you talking about gals, looking at girls, that kind of stuff? SPEAKER_01: I mean, you guys are how old are you? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: I have a girlfriend. SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay. SPEAKER_01: So but he he does not? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: So he's he Yeah. SPEAKER_01: So So if it's something innocent as innocent as that, as you guys are just trying to talk to girls and meet girls, that's one thing. SPEAKER_01: Right? SPEAKER_01: But like I said, you know, you're not gonna get in trouble for that. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't tell me remember the last time I spoke to him, you know, yeah, about getting interested in it, and that's not me. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: I'm not interested in it. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Where's your girlfriend? SPEAKER_00: She's in Bangkok. SPEAKER_02: In in Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Alright. SPEAKER_02: Do you know where where Derek lives? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: He's SPEAKER_02: You don't? SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Alright. SPEAKER_01: Is this I SPEAKER_00: think you can get all those information. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Let let me ask you this. SPEAKER_01: Does does do you know if he lives on campus, or does he live somewhere else? SPEAKER_00: On campus. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: So we could get his address from the school. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: Perfect. SPEAKER_01: That's what we'll do then. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: And what look. SPEAKER_01: We do so SPEAKER_00: I'm just I'm scared. SPEAKER_01: Look. SPEAKER_01: So so look. SPEAKER_01: So I look I normally work, uh, narcotics, Casey. SPEAKER_01: Doe. SPEAKER_01: Right? SPEAKER_01: That's my bread and butter. SPEAKER_01: That's what I love to do. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: So I know how to look I know how to look people up. SPEAKER_01: I know how to find people. SPEAKER_01: I know how to do all that. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: But one of the things I also love to do is I love to talk to people. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: And when I talk to people, I will give them as much information as I can. SPEAKER_01: I will put you at ease with everything as as best as you as I can. SPEAKER_01: Right? SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm telling you, you're not gonna be in trouble for anything that happened at at the Winko. SPEAKER_01: At Which is where we got some of the video. SPEAKER_00: It was in Winko? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Some of the videos where we got is is from Winko. SPEAKER_00: To be honest, if it's about ladies, sometimes, you know because he told me he's interested in ladies, uh, a girl, like, was a girlfriend. SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: When he sees someone he wants to talk to or something, he tells me, oh, this girl is looking beautiful. SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, man, it's it's life. SPEAKER_00: Just go and ask her that you're interested in her. SPEAKER_00: If it works fine, even other than this, just go out. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: That's that's how it is, but I don't know about him following the lady. SPEAKER_01: You don't know anything about that? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Like, following I think couple of times, like you said, right, I used to give him a ride because on Friday, we go grocery shopping Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: And then after school. SPEAKER_00: So SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_00: We go to the store. SPEAKER_00: He usually meets the Not I think not not once. SPEAKER_00: I think if I will be honest with you, we go we crack jokes, we laughing while we are shopping and stuff like that. SPEAKER_01: Sure. SPEAKER_00: And then he'll see this lady. SPEAKER_00: If he sees someone, he kind feel like, oh, this lady is beautiful. SPEAKER_00: Just approaches her and then talk talk to her. SPEAKER_00: If the lady is not interested, then I say, hey. SPEAKER_00: She's alright. SPEAKER_00: Let's go. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: You can't there are a lot of ladies around SPEAKER_01: So so if he sees a lady that he wants to talk to, does he just walk up and and talk? SPEAKER_00: I think that's what he does. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Because I don't follow him doing that. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: I also continue my shopping, and he comes to catch up with me. SPEAKER_00: That's what SPEAKER_01: he do actually. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Does he have you seen SPEAKER_01: him follow ladies at all SPEAKER_02: or known that he's done that? SPEAKER_00: The follow, I like, you see how he claimed, like, follow, I really don't know what the definition of follow is. SPEAKER_00: Maybe, oh, hey. SPEAKER_00: How are you? SPEAKER_00: Or something. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: I purchased the lady, and then I don't know what he talked about, to be honest. SPEAKER_00: I don't know how he approached himself. SPEAKER_00: But SPEAKER_02: Because I'll be honest with you, Kurt. SPEAKER_02: It seems like because I watched you guys on video for hours. SPEAKER_02: Okay? SPEAKER_02: And it looks like you knew what he was going to go do. SPEAKER_01: Like, he SPEAKER_02: was gonna go talk to a lady or whatever. SPEAKER_02: Yep. SPEAKER_02: Yep. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_02: That's right. SPEAKER_01: Has he ever seen a lady you wanna talk to and follow her out of the store? SPEAKER_00: To be honest, I think one time, I remember. SPEAKER_00: I don't know whether she was able to talk to the lady. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: But so what he let me let me let me be frank. SPEAKER_00: What he does is he's a shy type. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: So if there's a lot of people around, he doesn't he doesn't want to approach the lady at that time because if he says, no. SPEAKER_00: I don't usually close, and it will be shy. SPEAKER_00: And yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: He doesn't wanna be embarrassed. SPEAKER_02: Observers. SPEAKER_02: Yep. SPEAKER_02: Yep. SPEAKER_00: So he just waits for maybe when the lady is alone that he wants to talk to the lady. SPEAKER_00: That's what I hate. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, he just told me, oh, this lady is nice. SPEAKER_00: What do you think? SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh, good for it. SPEAKER_00: I mean, I am not interested. SPEAKER_00: So if you are interested in here, go and talk to her. SPEAKER_00: If it works fine. SPEAKER_00: If it doesn't, it's okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So I'm not like, if you watch the video, I don't go following him. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Right. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: And then, uh, I know we can get it from the school probably, but any idea about how old he is? SPEAKER_00: I don't know. SPEAKER_01: You don't know? SPEAKER_00: But I know I'm older than him. SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Um, go ahead. SPEAKER_02: So do you know his SPEAKER_01: class schedule at all? SPEAKER_01: Is he in class right now? SPEAKER_01: Do you know? SPEAKER_01: I don't You don't know? SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: We can find that out. SPEAKER_01: So Yeah. SPEAKER_01: We can figure that out. SPEAKER_01: Um, do you know is he the partying kinda guy? SPEAKER_01: Does he go to, like, parties and events and stuff? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: One time, we just do once or twice. SPEAKER_00: We we went to the club. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Just one of the, uh, which club? SPEAKER_00: Oh, SPEAKER_01: okay. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: I forgot the name. SPEAKER_01: I SPEAKER_00: did something. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And then there's one on is it WSU campus? SPEAKER_00: I forgot the the name. SPEAKER_01: BSU? SPEAKER_01: WSU. SPEAKER_01: Oh, WSU. SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: Sorry. SPEAKER_00: And then you just go shout. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: It's fun. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Absolutely. SPEAKER_01: I've spent a bunch of Halloweens at WSU's campus going to the clubs a