Interview / Interrogation
SPEAKER_00: You got one minute? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Can we come in? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Thank you. SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Thanks for the phone call. SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it. SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_00: And we and we can talk to them. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: We would be happy to talk to them. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: No Dude, seriously, everything's cool. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Not but everyone we flock with you, we're getting, again, VNA swabs from them. SPEAKER_00: Would you be able to provide us with one? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Just a little swab. SPEAKER_00: We flog the cheek to your mouth, and that's it. SPEAKER_00: So yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Sure. SPEAKER_00: Cool. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: And and how do you spell your last name? SPEAKER_00: I d a n. SPEAKER_00: And it's Oh, no. SPEAKER_00: Need to add your cheek here. SPEAKER_00: My cheek. SPEAKER_00: Inside. SPEAKER_00: Inside. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: And everyone we're talking to were doing this just, you know, Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Just and it helps eliminate people. SPEAKER_00: So that's a that's a big thing for us. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: When you came over on your Did they do that with you? SPEAKER_00: Your fingerprint? SPEAKER_00: Are you at ease a bit more knowing that nobody's in trouble? SPEAKER_00: Are you do you feel a bit better? SPEAKER_00: I understand. SPEAKER_00: Listen. SPEAKER_00: I have close friends too. SPEAKER_00: There's some friends that I have that, you know, if they got in trouble, I'd really have to ask myself, like I have no idea. SPEAKER_00: Perfect. SPEAKER_00: Well, he has no idea if he's dealing things. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: K? SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: So Put yourself in me. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Just called my room, and, yeah, I didn't point him on anything. SPEAKER_00: Good. SPEAKER_00: And then I was yeah. SPEAKER_00: And then, yeah, I was Oh, one last question. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Sure. SPEAKER_00: And then if you like that, I'm trying to say it too. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we talked to him, and he said, you know, in that, like, sometimes, again, we can just walk Yeah. SPEAKER_00: And, you know, build up the talk to someone and and Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: It was just we had a a conversation with him, and he understands now and and that kind of stuff. SPEAKER_00: And and he was very honest in in everything. SPEAKER_00: So one question. SPEAKER_00: Can I get your the number? SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_01: I can. SPEAKER_00: Guys could. SPEAKER_00: I do. SPEAKER_00: Sure. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: You're fine. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: It's okay. SPEAKER_00: Mom. SPEAKER_00: Mom's always have that sense of reasoning, don't they? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: I I don't know anybody. SPEAKER_00: Well, you have his phone number now. SPEAKER_00: I could give you mine if you know? SPEAKER_00: If you ever need anything, you can Yeah. SPEAKER_00: You can give us a call to us. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: It's Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: But I will talk to. SPEAKER_00: It's Okay. SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Cool. SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_00: Do you want my phone number? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Find it. SPEAKER_00: Call me. SPEAKER_00: I think it's in this country. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So I put it under Will, detective, ISP. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: I think. SPEAKER_00: And then you can save it, and you can get anything. SPEAKER_00: Or if you have any questions about anything, give me a call. SPEAKER_00: Or you hear anything of the the nineteen nineteen, please? SPEAKER_00: Don't hesitate. SPEAKER_00: Don't hesitate. SPEAKER_00: Thanks for that. SPEAKER_00: Happens. SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_00: And, again, if you're scatter, dumb, or if you haven't collected about I'm talking talking hitting. SPEAKER_00: You're having a bad day or whatever, and you have a question about something or you just want someone to talk to that might have an insight Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Give me a call. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Be good. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Absolutely. SPEAKER_00: He's been good for his insight. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Do you know him? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: How do you know You guys pretty close? SPEAKER_00: Close, like good friends? SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: I mean, when I see him I see him. SPEAKER_00: Do you know why we're here to talk to SPEAKER_02: you? SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_00: Why do you think we would be here? SPEAKER_02: Probably I don't know, but I don't know. SPEAKER_02: We were scared. SPEAKER_02: I don't know what incident happened in Moscow. SPEAKER_02: The incident? SPEAKER_02: The killing incident. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: So probably, they didn't do any normal routine, and and your friend down here was also chatting. SPEAKER_02: Was what? SPEAKER_02: Was also chatting couple of like, a month ago or two. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: A month ago. SPEAKER_02: He was in trouble? SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: Not really. SPEAKER_02: Actually, somebody came to he he met him on her dog, telling him about stepping and stuff and be like, I'm gonna kill you and all those things. SPEAKER_02: And the police was kinda, involving that. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: So the reason why we're here, just to be honest with you, we didn't have you in it. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: And you encouraged in it. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: So do you is that gonna develop anything? SPEAKER_02: Not really. SPEAKER_02: Mhmm. SPEAKER_02: Do have a girlfriend at all? SPEAKER_02: Nope. SPEAKER_02: But I have a girl from she said, Okay. SPEAKER_01: She goes to school. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: She goes to school in? SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: WSU? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_02: Not She's a she's a wire. SPEAKER_02: How SPEAKER_00: long how long have you been here? SPEAKER_02: Just a year now. SPEAKER_02: A year? SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: How SPEAKER_03: did you are you here for a bachelor's degree, master's degree, No. SPEAKER_03: No. SPEAKER_03: PH? SPEAKER_02: Can I grab a chair, dad? SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Let me get it. SPEAKER_02: Oh. SPEAKER_03: Need to find you some more furniture. SPEAKER_03: They're they're with us. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_03: They're so anytime we do something and we don't know the person, we bring more than more than two people to Yeah. SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean? SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_03: So just in case something bad like, so right now, you're not in trouble. SPEAKER_03: Okay? SPEAKER_03: We're just trying to figure out kinda what's going on. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_01: So Can you show me a video? SPEAKER_01: Or SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna show SPEAKER_01: you a video. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: I wanna know if it rings a bell or not. SPEAKER_02: Alright? SPEAKER_02: Alright. SPEAKER_03: Sounds familiar. SPEAKER_03: Looks familiar. SPEAKER_02: Is that you? SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Do you know where that's SPEAKER_00: at? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Winko? SPEAKER_01: Probably. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: You go you go do a lot of grocery shopping there? SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: We buy stuff already together. SPEAKER_01: All the time? SPEAKER_02: I mean, I have a car, but I just have a permit. SPEAKER_02: So I don't I'm not supposed to move it. SPEAKER_02: So he usually drive me with his car, and we go together every Friday. SPEAKER_01: You have a car, but you're not supposed to move it? SPEAKER_02: Because I don't have a driving license. SPEAKER_02: Have a license. SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay. SPEAKER_02: I have a permit, so I'm not letting it unless I get it from when I SPEAKER_03: move So you purchased a car, but you don't have a driver's license? SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: I don't I have a permit, but not a driver's license. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_02: I wanna show you SPEAKER_03: this. SPEAKER_03: Are SPEAKER_02: you moving? SPEAKER_02: I said what? SPEAKER_02: Are you moving? SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: How SPEAKER_00: long you've been here? SPEAKER_02: I think it'd be, yeah, this is my second year. SPEAKER_02: Actually, last year, I guess. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_03: But you're not moving? SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: Why the boxes? SPEAKER_02: These boxes? SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: The stuff I bought, I'll be sending it home. SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay. SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_03: So back home to Yeah. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: I SPEAKER_02: want you to watch this. SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna zoom in a little bit. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_02: That's Bingo? SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: That's me. SPEAKER_00: That's you? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: What what what are you doing there? SPEAKER_02: I can't this is. SPEAKER_02: You were No. SPEAKER_01: Let's back up. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: You're why why are you following her? SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: I'm not pretty much sure. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna I'm gonna SPEAKER_01: back up before I I I watched at least an hour of you in Winko. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: Mhmm. SPEAKER_01: And I know you're following her. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: Just because I watched you throughout the store. SPEAKER_01: They have hundreds of cameras in there. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: You can't walk in that store and not be seen by a camera. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_01: I watched it. SPEAKER_01: So I I just want you to be honest with me. SPEAKER_01: You're not in any trouble. SPEAKER_01: Okay? SPEAKER_02: Mhmm. SPEAKER_01: Alright? SPEAKER_01: But I wanna know, were you were you wanting to go talk to her? SPEAKER_01: What what was your what was your thought process? SPEAKER_02: Okay? SPEAKER_02: Usually, if I see a lady that's reading to me. SPEAKER_02: Yes. SPEAKER_02: I wanna talk to her by one day in the group. SPEAKER_02: I don't know. SPEAKER_02: So sometimes I'll talk to her be like, I'm not ready to talk to I just move away. SPEAKER_02: So I'm sure I'm sure if anytime I see a lady I talk to, I'll be like, hey. SPEAKER_02: Hi. SPEAKER_02: Can I talk to you? SPEAKER_02: Maybe she could probably say, I'm not I'm not ready to talk. SPEAKER_02: So I'll just came back and go away. SPEAKER_02: So I do that a lot, especially when you go to the grocery shops. SPEAKER_02: And if you go observe, it's quite a couple of videos see me trying to talk to the girls because I'm we go to class. SPEAKER_02: The only guys, I don't see girls often. SPEAKER_02: So either I go to the gym or I go to the grocery shops and I see any nice girl, I'll like, can I talk to you? SPEAKER_02: If you say no, SPEAKER_00: then I'll be like, SPEAKER_02: that's fine. SPEAKER_03: Do you do you ever go out to parties? SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: I don't go to parties. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Pretty much the same. SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean SPEAKER_03: So the only place that you think you can meet a girl is SPEAKER_02: or outings, like grocery grocery shop or Walmart. SPEAKER_02: I mean, if I meet Walmart and see a pretty girl at the gym, the same thing, I'll be like, can I talk to you? SPEAKER_02: And I don't like it when maybe they are together or Why SPEAKER_01: is that? SPEAKER_02: Because I don't I feel shy to talk to them that way, and sometimes you feel like because of your caller, they haven't already talked to you and all that. SPEAKER_02: So I was like, I just want to meet you one on one. SPEAKER_02: And I've met one girl, a friend through that, and he works for me. SPEAKER_02: She was like, just talk to them if you wanna be your friend. SPEAKER_02: You can be your friend. SPEAKER_02: So I'm sure I was trying to be I'm trying to be like, can I talk to you? SPEAKER_02: And I don't like I'll when I see that, they said this, I'm like, hi. SPEAKER_02: Please, can I talk to you? SPEAKER_02: She said no. SPEAKER_02: Then I'll just be like, okay. SPEAKER_02: That's fine. SPEAKER_02: I mean, you don't have to force anybody to talk to the person. SPEAKER_02: Right. SPEAKER_02: So yeah. SPEAKER_01: Positive. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: You find that behavior a little odd? SPEAKER_01: But SPEAKER_02: For me, we do that a lot. SPEAKER_02: So and one thing I noticed is sometimes you feel uncomfortable about it. SPEAKER_02: So I've noticed that and one girl was telling me that if you wanna get a girl, you better go to the party. SPEAKER_02: If you go out to the gym or something, you approach it, they're not gonna talk to you. SPEAKER_02: So the best way possible to meet them, go to the parties. SPEAKER_02: You guys are all having fun and talk to her. SPEAKER_02: Can you be my friend? SPEAKER_02: And she said, yes. SPEAKER_02: He said, no. SPEAKER_02: Then that's it. SPEAKER_02: So I was like, I can't go to parties because I work. SPEAKER_02: I go to right now, I'm watching football. SPEAKER_02: That's why I'm here. SPEAKER_02: Mostly, I go to my SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_02: If I close, I come. SPEAKER_02: I'm tired. SPEAKER_02: I need to rest. SPEAKER_02: I usually sleep early and wake up at night and study for the night. SPEAKER_02: And I wake up late, and I go to the lab go through the same process and all those things. SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I can't go to party. SPEAKER_02: You know what mean? SPEAKER_01: The parties aren't conducive to your schedule. SPEAKER_01: Is that what saying? SPEAKER_02: The parties are full of all flights. SPEAKER_02: So maybe SPEAKER_01: I think that bodes well for SPEAKER_02: you, actually. SPEAKER_02: The reason the reason why I I don't have so much training is because I think I'm in you go to class, you're only two you're only one. SPEAKER_02: And then you don't need to see people like undergrads where you are or in class and you have friends. SPEAKER_02: Be like, hey. SPEAKER_02: Can you come to parties? SPEAKER_02: And then be like, okay. SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go to parties. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: So sometimes I'm I'm sure we wanna lose incident. SPEAKER_02: Aside that, I don't I don't know. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: So how many times when you go to Winko do you do you do that? SPEAKER_01: Follow girls out? SPEAKER_02: I've tried that a couple of times. SPEAKER_02: That was this it's been a long time I tried that. SPEAKER_02: Like, maybe the the last time I tried was a month ago or something. SPEAKER_02: I said, no. SPEAKER_02: I didn't even go. SPEAKER_02: I didn't even chase it. SPEAKER_02: I just stands I stand, and I was like, hey. SPEAKER_02: Can I talk to you? SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: I'm in hurry. SPEAKER_02: I said, well, that's fine. SPEAKER_02: That's fine. SPEAKER_03: That's the last time that happened? SPEAKER_02: The last time I was trying to I was standing right off when you're coming out to the Winkle. SPEAKER_02: Mhmm. SPEAKER_02: I think they put some logs or something close to SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: So I was just standing on the pillar, and I was standing waiting for it to come out. SPEAKER_02: And I was like because she was busy peeing, and I pitched it before, and I was like, hey. SPEAKER_02: Can I talk to you? SPEAKER_02: It's like, I'm not able to talk. SPEAKER_02: I said, well, that's fine. SPEAKER_02: Then I yes. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Yes, please. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Alright. SPEAKER_01: And you don't have a girlfriend here now? SPEAKER_02: She I have a friend who is my who is she says she's not a girlfriend. SPEAKER_03: Are you gonna take that home with you, are you gonna stay here and try and Don't know? SPEAKER_02: I don't really know. SPEAKER_02: It's kinda hard driving police. SPEAKER_02: If you are done and you've been giving OPT, optional practical training SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_02: And the company feel like, you are doing great so they can retain you SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh. SPEAKER_02: That's the only time you're gonna stay in America. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: If they are not ready to pay for your h what's is it h b one visa or something? SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah. SPEAKER_03: Your visa. SPEAKER_02: You just need to go back to your country. SPEAKER_02: So it depend on the company I'm gonna work with. SPEAKER_02: And if they find you, like, useful, then you can stay with them or something. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_03: Do you have a do you have a lot of times when we come and talk to people in the house, we wanna know if there's any weapons or anything. SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_03: You can you can go. SPEAKER_03: Is there anything in here? SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_02: No. SPEAKER_03: No. SPEAKER_03: No weapons. SPEAKER_03: No? SPEAKER_03: No. SPEAKER_03: No guns. SPEAKER_03: No knives. SPEAKER_03: No nothing. SPEAKER_02: Leave me a wall for your students. SPEAKER_02: Well, I SPEAKER_03: mean Yeah. SPEAKER_02: From So, yeah, there is nothing like that. SPEAKER_02: I understand the whole situation. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: I just need to stop that. SPEAKER_02: It's because you could put into trouble. SPEAKER_02: I I know what is going on in Moscow, and we were all scared. SPEAKER_02: I mean, when the student left, we are the only one left here, and I was like, this is scary, dude. SPEAKER_02: Like, how are gonna manage ourselves to move around? SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: But the good thing for me, I've seen the cops around a couple of times. SPEAKER_02: I just walked to my come back. SPEAKER_03: Sure. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: It's been a long time I stayed, but I I don't go out. SPEAKER_02: So that's one good thing about the situation. SPEAKER_02: Where were you SPEAKER_01: last Sunday or last I'm sorry. SPEAKER_01: On the November 13. SPEAKER_02: Always in my room. SPEAKER_01: Always in your room? SPEAKER_02: Always in my room. SPEAKER_02: I've never stepped out in my before. SPEAKER_02: Who is that? SPEAKER_01: It's the Dean of Students. SPEAKER_02: Oh. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: I'll call them back later. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Always in my room. SPEAKER_02: Always in your room? SPEAKER_02: Yes, please. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Always in SPEAKER_03: my So you were do you do you know when the the the killings happened? SPEAKER_02: I I like I said, I do wake up late. SPEAKER_02: So I woke up, like, 1PM, and I because I'm my computer send me email always. SPEAKER_02: Right? SPEAKER_02: So I saw my I saw an email pop up on my computer, and it was and it was, like, there was an incident of a killing of students, and they refused to tell us how many were dead and how was SPEAKER_01: it 1PM, you said? SPEAKER_02: 1PM afternoon, Sunday. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: And that's when you woke up? SPEAKER_02: That that's when that's when I saw the news. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: I woke up. SPEAKER_02: It's only, like, twelve, one day. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_02: So when I woke up, I went to I always go to my computer first before I even go and brush my teeth. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_02: And then I saw the email pop up from the school. SPEAKER_02: It was like, there was incidents that led to the killing of something. SPEAKER_02: The fuck? SPEAKER_02: Like, we were all surprised. SPEAKER_02: So I encouraged we were all discussing the issues. SPEAKER_02: I was like, so how did that happe