Interview / Interrogation
SPEAKER_00: So just real just so I can say on this reporting, it's all here. SPEAKER_00: So myself, sergeant Blake here with SPEAKER_01: the Moscow Police Department, and then I have sergeant Matthew Nguyen. SPEAKER_00: I'm with the Nevada. SPEAKER_01: Uh, it's technically now a Nevada state police investigation, but Okay. SPEAKER_01: Commonly, affectionately refers to as MDI. SPEAKER_01: So Okay. SPEAKER_00: And Sorry about that. SPEAKER_00: That's okay. SPEAKER_00: Here with me with her attorney and her transcriber. SPEAKER_02: The time is approximately 11:55. SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of different types of questions I'm gonna be asking today. SPEAKER_00: So I'm not here just to go back through another timeline again. SPEAKER_03: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Based off of our investigation now, we have some other things that we've kinda wanna get some information on, and we're hoping that that's something that you can provide to us. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: So I'm actually gonna start with those questions first. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_02: And then at the end, we'll SPEAKER_00: go back over your timeline a little bit better. SPEAKER_00: Okay? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: So let's the first question I have for you, just trying to get some ideas of the routine of the house. SPEAKER_03: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: The front door code, how many people have that code? SPEAKER_03: I only know, like, three people that had it, and then all of us were big. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So everyone that lived there? SPEAKER_03: Yes. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And how many people actually lived in the house? SPEAKER_03: That actually were, like, paying rent. SPEAKER_00: Were sleeping in the house? SPEAKER_03: Like, every single night. SPEAKER_00: Pretty much. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_03: So me, Maddie, Kaylee, Xana, and Ethan. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: What about that other downstairs bedroom? SPEAKER_00: No one. SPEAKER_00: One was living in that room? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So all of you have the code and then three other people? SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: Do you know who those three people live? SPEAKER_00: You know last name? SPEAKER_00: And what was the purpose of her half of the code? SPEAKER_03: Uh, she was one of my best friends, so SPEAKER_00: she was always coming over. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And who was who else had it? SPEAKER_00: Can you spell her last name? SPEAKER_03: It was SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And just another friend? SPEAKER_00: Or Yeah. SPEAKER_00: One of my SPEAKER_03: best friends. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And then who else had it? SPEAKER_03: And then SPEAKER_00: Was she your friend or was she SPEAKER_03: They are all of all of our friends. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Are you all belong to the same sorting house? SPEAKER_03: And then I know, actually, two three more people left. SPEAKER_00: Three more? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Spell that news. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_03: And then SPEAKER_00: And how was the reason for these three, haven't they? SPEAKER_03: They're all, like, really good friends of all ours. SPEAKER_00: So just really close people? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Is that pretty much the only people you gave it to? SPEAKER_03: That to my knowledge, that's the only people that know it. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_02: Well, when was the we we we clarified that, did did you give them these No. SPEAKER_02: These people the codes? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: Just were are there any one any of the members of the house gave these individuals the code? SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: Whatever issue builders? SPEAKER_00: I SPEAKER_03: One of them had to have given them. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_03: But SPEAKER_00: When was the last time you guys changed it? SPEAKER_03: Never. SPEAKER_03: You've never changed it though? SPEAKER_03: I moved in me, and Santa, and Kaylee were all moved to a house, but Maddie lived there the year before. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_03: And they didn't change it from the year before. SPEAKER_03: But SPEAKER_00: And what was the code? SPEAKER_03: This oh, a golden SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And that's what you remember it being? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_03: It's more of, like, a pattern when I see it, but I can that's how I remember it. SPEAKER_03: I think that's the numbers. SPEAKER_03: And SPEAKER_00: you moved in when? SPEAKER_03: August. SPEAKER_00: So at the start of the school SPEAKER_03: year? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: And that's when you, Xana Xana? SPEAKER_00: Xana or Xana? SPEAKER_03: Xana. SPEAKER_00: Xana. SPEAKER_00: Ethan And who was the other one who moved in at that time? SPEAKER_03: I don't know if Ethan was I can't remember if Ethan was there at that time. SPEAKER_00: Did he actually live in the house, or did he have his own place? SPEAKER_03: He had his own place, but he stayed there SPEAKER_00: every night. SPEAKER_00: Where did he actually live? SPEAKER_00: Do you know? SPEAKER_03: It was in a apartment by this one gas station. SPEAKER_03: I don't really know the street or anything. SPEAKER_00: Do you remember the gas station? SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_03: The seventy sixer. SPEAKER_00: It's owned by the seventy six? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So I've been on the opposite end of campus. SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: If I remember it. SPEAKER_00: Did he live with anyone? SPEAKER_00: Did he offer his or Just him. SPEAKER_00: Just him. SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_03: K. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: And when did you said Maddie was the one that was living in there prior? SPEAKER_00: So was she the only one who was currently in the house that had been in the house the year before? SPEAKER_03: Yes. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Did she switch rooms at all? SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm. SPEAKER_00: And her room was upstairs the top of the stairs to the right, right next to the bathroom? SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: I know you looked on the very bottom floor. SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: And it was just the one with the front door SPEAKER_01: to the left. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So that's what we thought. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: What about Murphy's routine, the dog? SPEAKER_00: How did who took him out? SPEAKER_00: How often did he go out? SPEAKER_00: What was kind of the normal standard routine for taking him out? SPEAKER_03: I believe Kaylee mainly took him out, and Maddie would sometimes take him out if Kaylee didn't want to. SPEAKER_03: K. SPEAKER_03: And she just kinda took him out whenever. SPEAKER_03: Sometimes she would take him out through the back, but sometimes she would take him out through the front door, and then he just got SPEAKER_00: Did they ever use a leash with him, or did they just open the door and let him go? SPEAKER_03: She never used a leash, but she had, like, a little collar that would, like, buzz if he was, like, running away that she would put on sometimes. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So does she have, like, a, like, an exterior around the property? SPEAKER_03: No. SPEAKER_03: It was just, a little it might have been, like, a little shock or yeah. SPEAKER_03: Something like that. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So she had a handheld push button or something like that? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: Would you guys ever leave the rear slider open so he could go in and out as he pleased? SPEAKER_03: No. SPEAKER_03: Because he would run away, usually. SPEAKER_00: How was he? SPEAKER_00: Was he a skittish dog? SPEAKER_00: Was he friendly? SPEAKER_00: Did he bark at anything that moved? SPEAKER_03: He was pretty friendly. SPEAKER_03: He didn't bark that often, but he would bark sometimes. SPEAKER_03: I don't know. SPEAKER_03: He's a good dog. SPEAKER_03: K. SPEAKER_03: But he was a puppy, so, like, not completely trained. SPEAKER_00: So there's not some, like, some dogs where they're scared of their own shadow and they just park and run and hide? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Anything? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Did he always sleep in Kaylee's here? SPEAKER_03: Mhmm. SPEAKER_03: K. SPEAKER_00: Never wandered off down to one of your guys' rooms if Kaylee was She SPEAKER_03: always shut the door. SPEAKER_00: She always shut the door. SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_03: Or kept him in there when she was in there. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: You've heard of it sounds like a fairly routine Uber driver. SPEAKER_00: That used to drive either all of you from the house or mostly just Natalie and Kaylee. SPEAKER_00: Can you explain who this guy is, how this relationship started, everything like that? SPEAKER_03: I know Kaylee, I think, knew him from some of the other would always take his Uber, and they have his number, and he always, like, helped them and got them whenever they needed it. SPEAKER_03: And so then most of the school would take his Uber. SPEAKER_03: Right? SPEAKER_00: Most of the school? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So a lot of people knew? SPEAKER_03: A lot of people. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: And you ever used him? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: How would they normally contact him? SPEAKER_03: Either just through the Uber app or through the thumb. SPEAKER_00: So, like, a direct phone number? SPEAKER_03: Mhmm. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_00: What did have you ever used him before? SPEAKER_03: Yes. SPEAKER_02: What's he like? SPEAKER_03: He's a really nice guy to my knowledge. SPEAKER_00: Do you know his name? SPEAKER_00: Has he ever acted strange or odd with you guys? SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm. SPEAKER_00: Ever said anything or done anything inappropriate that you ever heard? SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm. SPEAKER_00: Have you ever heard either Kaylee or Maddie say anything odd after he gave him a ride home or something? SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_03: Everyone pretty much loved him. SPEAKER_03: They all used his Uber. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: So he's well enough light. SPEAKER_00: And did they trust him? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Is that mainly why they used him so SPEAKER_01: much? SPEAKER_01: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Do you know anything more about him, like his personal life or anything? SPEAKER_03: I know his wife just had a baby. SPEAKER_03: K. SPEAKER_00: So he didn't play it off that he was single or anything like that with you guys? SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And what kind of car is it? SPEAKER_03: It's a smaller car. SPEAKER_00: Do you remember what color? SPEAKER_03: Don't remember. SPEAKER_03: Like a gray or black maybe? SPEAKER_03: K. SPEAKER_03: Or white. SPEAKER_03: I honestly don't know. SPEAKER_03: I don't remember. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: No worries. SPEAKER_00: I know I asked a little bit about my current boyfriend when we first talked. SPEAKER_00: Who all out of all of you living in the house, primarily the you five girls Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Who all have boyfriends? SPEAKER_03: Xana at the time? SPEAKER_03: Like Per currently? SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_03: Xana and Maddie. SPEAKER_00: And Xana's boyfriend, who is Eva? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Who is SPEAKER_03: dating? SPEAKER_03: His name He was in SPEAKER_00: Do you know last name? SPEAKER_00: I do not. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Do you know if he goes to is he in high school still or is he Maddie? SPEAKER_00: Were they SPEAKER_03: VoIP is how you pronounce it. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: And is he a student at U of I or somewhere else? SPEAKER_03: He graduated from UI. SPEAKER_00: Do you know what he doesn't SPEAKER_03: He he has a job, like, nine to five job. SPEAKER_03: Good. SPEAKER_03: That's all I know. SPEAKER_03: I forget what it was. SPEAKER_00: But you don't know what it is? SPEAKER_03: I forget what it was. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And then were all of those fairly recent boyfriends, or had they, yeah, they've been dating SPEAKER_03: for They've all been dating for, like, a while. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And then, obviously, Kaylee or Kate yeah. SPEAKER_00: Kaylee had a an ex boyfriend. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_03: Yes. SPEAKER_00: And that was was there anyone else that she was seeing maybe kinda hanging out with quite a bit more? SPEAKER_00: Possibly a SPEAKER_03: Mother. SPEAKER_00: What is he like? SPEAKER_00: She's super nice too. SPEAKER_03: K. SPEAKER_03: Like, I beg. SPEAKER_00: I don't like, in green. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And is that how Kaylee met him was through Zenith? SPEAKER_03: No. SPEAKER_03: I don't think so. SPEAKER_03: Kaylee just knew, like Just how it's yeah. SPEAKER_03: Fair enough. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So the so can you kind of explain a little bit about their interactions? SPEAKER_00: Were they kind of starting a dating relationship, or were they just kind of friendly with each other? SPEAKER_03: I don't really know. SPEAKER_03: They would talk a lot, and I think she kinda liked it, but it was just, a beginning thing. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_03: I don't think SPEAKER_00: Was there a lot of flirting going on between the two of them? SPEAKER_03: I think a little. SPEAKER_00: A little? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Had he ever stayed the night at your guys' house? SPEAKER_03: No. SPEAKER_03: But she stayed with him, like, a few times, think, maybe twice. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Do you know where he lives? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Do you know if he's ever been to your house? SPEAKER_03: Yes. SPEAKER_03: Yes. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Is that just from the normal coming to the parties type stuff, or had you ever been over there when there wasn't a party? SPEAKER_03: No. SPEAKER_03: Not that I know of. SPEAKER_03: Other than know of? SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_03: Maybe homework somewhere sometime. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: Was there any other that you know that are either hanging out with with Kaylee recently? SPEAKER_03: I don't know if they ever, like, hung out, but I think she liked him. SPEAKER_03: They were kinda talking a little, but then they didn't. SPEAKER_00: Who was that? SPEAKER_00: Taking a wild guess on that one. SPEAKER_00: And is he then? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So what do you mean by they kinda were hanging out for a while, but nothing ever came of it? SPEAKER_03: What I think they were just kinda flirting. SPEAKER_03: K. SPEAKER_03: And they talked, like, before, I think. SPEAKER_03: And then she kinda came up again, but then nothing really came up. SPEAKER_00: And did this all take place after her and broke up? SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: Same with? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: So these didn't start before or anything like that? SPEAKER_00: It just everything started afterwards? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: And what about you? SPEAKER_00: Do you have a current or ex boyfriend? SPEAKER_03: No. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Any guys that you know, the flirty starting of a relationship or anything? SPEAKER_03: I had one guy kinda. SPEAKER_03: His name was SPEAKER_00: Where does he live? SPEAKER_03: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Had he been over to your place before? SPEAKER_03: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Same thing, parties, or just you invite him over? SPEAKER_00: You come hangs out? SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Nothing serious between the two of you? SPEAKER_03: Not really. SPEAKER_00: Did he want more? SPEAKER_03: I don't know. SPEAKER_03: It's just kinda newer. SPEAKER_00: Newer? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Kinda that beginning stage of getting to know each other? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: A lot of talking mostly through phone or in person? SPEAKER_03: Both. SPEAKER_00: A little bit of both? SPEAKER_00: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: And what about I said I had a boyfriend. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Think that'd be all of you. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: Any other admirers or guys who just were catching a clue that would hang out or just try and hang out, kinda hang around you guys, come to your parties all the time and kinda be annoying that you can think of? SPEAKER_03: Not really. SPEAKER_03: Like, no one would probably, like Okay. SPEAKER_03: Be creepy towards anyone. SPEAKER_00: Have you ever heard the name SPEAKER_03: I know know his last name. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: His name just came up, so I'm not even sure. SPEAKER_00: He he's He's Heck. SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to remember the toilet. SPEAKER_00: You know? SPEAKER_00: What do you know about SPEAKER_01: What do you know? SPEAKER_03: All I know is that he's super nice. SPEAKER_03: He's friends with and all of them. SPEAKER_03: He had a long time girlfriend, but then they broke up recently. SPEAKER_03: That's all I really know. SPEAKER_00: And, yeah, the I'm referring to was it? SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_03: That might be same one. SPEAKER_03: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So a nice guy, though? SPEAKER_03: Mhmm. SPEAKER_03: I'd I'd never, like, really had, like, conversation with him. SPEAKER_03: K. SPEAKER_03: He was always nice when I write. SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna ask a point blank question with does he sell drugs of any kind? SPEAKER_03: Not that I know of. SPEAKER_00: Oh, he know of? SPEAKER_03: Mm-mm. SPEAKER_03: K. SPEAKER_00: What about Is that a familiar you're familiar with? SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So I know everyone's already aware of the video from the grub truck Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Everyone watching it. SPEAKER_00: And there's an individual behind that shows up the same time that Kaylee and Maddie do Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: And then kinda leaves right after they do. SPEAKER_00: Do you know who that was? SPEAKER_03: I do not. SPEAKER_00: Have you seen that video? SPEAKER_03: I have seen the video, and I know people they didn't know who it was. SPEAKER_00: Do you know anyone last name it? SPEAKER_03: I don't know him personally, but I've heard the name. SPEAKER_00: What have you heard? SPEAKER_03: Well, I heard recently that forget who's better, but someone said that their boyfriend or somebody said that they never wanna get in a fight with him because he has, like, anger issues kind of, and it's known for, like, beating SPEAKER_00: up people. SPEAKER_00: But that came third, fourth party, basically? SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Do you know Might be able to figure out who would know direct at hand so we could talk to that person about him. SPEAKER_03: Think it was told me that who was I I'm not positive on that. SPEAKER_00: And do you know her boy who her boyfriend is? SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_03: Do you know what SPEAKER_00: she's saying? SPEAKER_03: Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: And in the fraternity? SPEAKER_03: No. SPEAKER_03: So SPEAKER_00: you think that maybe kind of it? SPEAKER_03: I'm pretty sure he was. SPEAKER_03: Right? SPEAKER_03: That's what I heard. SPEAKER_00: You've heard that he was? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: But you've never seen do you would you even recognize him if you saw him on the street? SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: So you probably have no idea if he's ever been in your house or anything like that? SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm. SPEAKER_03: I don't think I've never heard anyone say anything about him. SPEAKER_03: But SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: When you were watching the grub truck video Mhmm. SPEAKER_00: Did you see anyone else that was standing behind Kaylee or Maddie while they were getting their food that you recognized? SPEAKER_03: I thought I recognized someone. SPEAKER_03: I need to see the video again. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: And I don't have that. SPEAKER_00: Can booked in as evidence. SPEAKER_00: I know there was a bigger guy wearing a a dark Carhartt. SPEAKER_03: I have no idea who that was. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: But you know who I'm talking about. S