Interview Jack DuCoeur 11-13-2022

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SPEAKER_00: Just so you understand kinda what's going on, this is kinda how these things go.
SPEAKER_00: We pull everybody in that has any any degree of affiliation.
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
SPEAKER_00: So don't think that you're in trouble.
SPEAKER_00: We're trying to collect as much of this information as we can to try to get a clear picture on what's going on and figure out where to start looking.
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
SPEAKER_00: So real quick, do you have a cell phone?
SPEAKER_00: Do you mind if I take
SPEAKER_01: it from you?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: That's alright.
SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
SPEAKER_00: Do you need to text anybody?
SPEAKER_00: Let them know you're okay.
SPEAKER_00: I don't want someone to try to call you, and your phone will be off.
SPEAKER_01: I've had a few people try to call me this morning.
SPEAKER_01: My parents are coming up from Cortland as well.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: But they're aware of what's going on?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: I might wanna just let them know to come straight.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Have at it.
SPEAKER_00: You're more than welcome to we can call and text them wherever you want to do.
SPEAKER_00: Address is 155 Southview.
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna give him my phone, but I just wanted to let you know that I'll be at the police station if you guys are still coming.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: When will you be here just so I kinda know?
SPEAKER_01: When will you be here?
SPEAKER_00: I have a doctor.
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
SPEAKER_01: One of the officers would like to speak to you.
SPEAKER_00: Hello, ma'am.
SPEAKER_00: Hey.
SPEAKER_00: My name is Corporal Payne with Moscow PD.
SPEAKER_00: I just kinda wanna give you guys do you do you know where the PD is here in town?
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I think think we're losing you.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: Bye.
SPEAKER_01: Text her.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: I think they're familiar with the area at all.
SPEAKER_01: They know they moved spots.
SPEAKER_02: Oh, so I didn't text her.
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
SPEAKER_01: Do you know where the new PlayStation is?
SPEAKER_02: Uh, no.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: So the easiest way
SPEAKER_02: Put Put it it in in Google Google Maps.
SPEAKER_02: Maps.
SPEAKER_02: What's Yeah.
SPEAKER_02: That one?
SPEAKER_00: Uh, the easiest way, ma'am, is just just stay on the highway like you're going to Lewiston.
SPEAKER_00: You you'll kinda go through town.
SPEAKER_00: You'll pass A And W on your right, and they keep going down that long hill, and you can't miss it.
SPEAKER_00: It's a big brand new building on the left side of the road.
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: You.
SPEAKER_00: Bye.
SPEAKER_00: Alright.
SPEAKER_00: So real quick, what's your first hearing?
SPEAKER_00: What's your middle initial?
SPEAKER_00: Last What's the date of birth for you?
SPEAKER_00: Good address for
SPEAKER_01: Can we and your phone number?
SPEAKER_01: One.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: I'm assuming it's just what kind of phone is this?
SPEAKER_00: IPhone?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: What model do you know?
SPEAKER_01: 10 x, I think, like, four.
SPEAKER_00: Really?
SPEAKER_00: Just so you know, we obviously try to get these back to you as quick as we can.
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
SPEAKER_00: So it's not like you're never gonna see your phone again.
SPEAKER_00: It may take a few days for us to process the information on it, and we'll get it back to you.
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
SPEAKER_00: So I make sure I have a good good documentation of who's who's, and and then go from there.
SPEAKER_00: Alright?
SPEAKER_00: So while we're on that note, I'm just gonna throw in your info here.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: So this is just saying that you give MoscoPD consent to search your digital media.
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you wouldn't mind, if you're okay with that right there, it says consent or signature, if you wouldn't mind signing right there.
SPEAKER_00: And just so you know everything's recorded, this little camera here is rocking and rolling.
SPEAKER_00: So thanks.
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
SPEAKER_01: I'm not a I'm not iPhone guys.
SPEAKER_01: It's
SPEAKER_00: You'd hold it down to turn it off.
SPEAKER_01: There?
SPEAKER_01: Just click that right side button there.
SPEAKER_00: Now I turn my turn off off.
SPEAKER_00: I totally weren't on a battery.
SPEAKER_01: How I see you?
SPEAKER_00: Hold both of these.
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
SPEAKER_00: Oh, can you put
SPEAKER_01: just write your mail on the top here for me if you would like.
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
SPEAKER_00: Alright.
SPEAKER_00: So appreciate that.
SPEAKER_00: I know it's a weird thing.
SPEAKER_00: You know, if you're phoning somebody, but I appreciate you helping us out.
SPEAKER_00: Right?
SPEAKER_00: Before we get into kinda timeline for last night's stuff, what you had I'm assuming you had social media.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: What kind of what accounts do you have?
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: So I got your address.
SPEAKER_00: So starting yesterday, midday, wherever you wanna start.
SPEAKER_00: Did go to football game?
SPEAKER_00: No.
SPEAKER_00: Was working.
SPEAKER_00: Are you working?
SPEAKER_00: K.
SPEAKER_00: Where are working?
SPEAKER_01: What time is your shift in?
SPEAKER_01: From, like, two to 10:10 ten.
SPEAKER_01: I don't have other problem.
SPEAKER_01: 10:10PM.
SPEAKER_01: I'm assuming.
SPEAKER_01: Right?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: And then what did you do after you got off shift?
SPEAKER_01: I went home.
SPEAKER_01: I dropped off some food at my friend who's working at the corner club.
SPEAKER_01: And then I went home and met up with my friends, and then we went to the corner club as a group.
SPEAKER_01: How did you guys get to the club?
SPEAKER_01: Probably close to eleven.
SPEAKER_01: K.
SPEAKER_00: What anything kinda talking through the rest of your evening there?
SPEAKER_00: You guys just hang out?
SPEAKER_00: Or
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: We'd hung out there, and then I actually did run into Kaylee at the corner club.
SPEAKER_01: So they hired her, talked to her for probably a minute or so.
SPEAKER_01: And then eventually, I don't know if she left before or after me, but I left.
SPEAKER_01: I came back home, pretty much just went to bed, and then I woke up.
SPEAKER_01: And I saw a bunch of commotion down the street, and I walked out there just to see what was going on, and I kinda heard some things.
SPEAKER_01: But I later looked on my phone and found, um, like, six missed calls from Kayla and three from Maddie as well.
SPEAKER_00: Sorry to interrupt you, man.
SPEAKER_00: So you guys what time did you leave the court close?
SPEAKER_01: Probably about one.
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's I don't really know that I was in taking that time.
SPEAKER_00: Oh, sorry.
SPEAKER_00: When you juke went straight home after that, do you guys stop and
SPEAKER_01: get grub truck, anyone get?
SPEAKER_01: No.
SPEAKER_01: Straight home.
SPEAKER_01: Straight home.
SPEAKER_01: Our sober driver was actually stopped by the officers.
SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Who's
SPEAKER_01: your Well, actually, we didn't get in that car because it was too full, came in contact with him because I was trying to get a ride.
SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: So how did you end
SPEAKER_01: up getting home?
SPEAKER_01: Uh, just another buddy came and picked us up.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: Who is that?
SPEAKER_01: Do you mind me asking?
SPEAKER_00: And who's spelled last name?
SPEAKER_00: And you just went straight home.
SPEAKER_00: Was it?
SPEAKER_00: Right?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: K.
SPEAKER_00: And then about what time did you go to sleep?
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember?
SPEAKER_01: Probably about a half hour after that after I got home at one ish.
SPEAKER_01: So 01:30 ish, start to say?
SPEAKER_01: That's my best guess.
SPEAKER_00: K.
SPEAKER_00: And then what time do you actually wake up?
SPEAKER_00: And then you do you have roommates at
SPEAKER_01: all?
SPEAKER_01: Mhmm.
SPEAKER_00: Were they there?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: I got two of them on the phone when I got walked out of my room, but I don't know who else is there.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Who are your roommates?
SPEAKER_01: There's five.
SPEAKER_01: Four of them.
SPEAKER_00: K.
SPEAKER_00: And then that's all.
SPEAKER_00: That's all?
SPEAKER_00: And me.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Um, so you said you woke up 11:30 and saw a commotion.
SPEAKER_00: What can you kinda describe that to
SPEAKER_01: My roommate's window in his bedroom can just see, like, down the street, and he, like, mentioned it, and I got up and looked.
SPEAKER_01: And I saw it was up by Kaylee's house and sort of walked out there.
SPEAKER_01: Was it, like, people or cop cars?
SPEAKER_01: Or Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's, like, three cop cars and then some EMTs and stuff.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: And you said that was about 11:30?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: K.
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember what time he said you went back and checked your phone?
SPEAKER_00: Do you kinda remember, like, you said that missed calls from Kaylee?
SPEAKER_00: Do remember what time those came in by chance?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: They were,
SPEAKER_01: like, between 02:40 and three.
SPEAKER_01: And before last time, it was, like, 02:57.
SPEAKER_01: One of them was also a FaceTime.
SPEAKER_01: How many of them were there today?
SPEAKER_01: I think there's six from Caleb and three from Maddie.
SPEAKER_01: And I don't like Maddie.
SPEAKER_01: I've known her forever, but she she wouldn't just call me unless they needed something.
SPEAKER_01: So that was weird to me.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: You said the last one was, like, 0247, you said?
SPEAKER_00: 1 that?
SPEAKER_01: 57.
SPEAKER_01: 257.
SPEAKER_00: No text messages from
SPEAKER_01: either one?
SPEAKER_01: Actually, I don't know how she got my mobile vape, but she texted me, like, 245 and she said, hey.
SPEAKER_01: I have your vape.
SPEAKER_01: You can come get it from my house.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: I didn't see that till the morning.
SPEAKER_00: And that's Kaylee?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: So I know you say you're sleeping, obviously, most of the night, but at any point, did anybody mention hearing, seeing anything out of the ordinary?
SPEAKER_00: You run my mouth at the letter, heard.
SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
SPEAKER_00: No.
SPEAKER_00: K.
SPEAKER_00: Did you hear or see anything out of the ordinary?
SPEAKER_01: No.
SPEAKER_01: Not until the morning.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Not till you saw, like, cop cars and stuff.
SPEAKER_01: But Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Have you noticed anybody around, like, in your group of friends or even just in the neighborhood that you're like, well, that's kinda or gal is kinda off looking.
SPEAKER_00: Anybody stick out like that to you in the last months, few months school started?
SPEAKER_01: One day there's this, like, old minivan that was just, like, kind of backing up up in, like, up our street and back down.
SPEAKER_01: Mhmm.
SPEAKER_01: It just looked weird.
SPEAKER_01: I took a picture of it.
SPEAKER_01: Oh, is it?
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: Just but never thought of anything of it, and that's probably a month or two ago.
SPEAKER_01: You said it
SPEAKER_00: just backing down the street?
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it
SPEAKER_01: I live on, like, dead end.
SPEAKER_01: She, like, pulled up and then, like, backed down and then was just sitting there forever.
SPEAKER_01: I might just be stereotyping.
SPEAKER_01: You're good.
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of stuff we
SPEAKER_00: need to know for sure.
SPEAKER_00: What color was it?
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember?
SPEAKER_00: I think it was like a like a dark gold.
SPEAKER_00: Not a gold,
SPEAKER_01: but it was like peeling paint and stuff.
SPEAKER_01: Not about a month ago?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: I could find a day.
SPEAKER_01: I'm not following this.
SPEAKER_00: Nothing else?
SPEAKER_00: No no weird people walking around in the shadows or anything like that going on?
SPEAKER_00: No.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Do you have any idea who who would do something like this?
SPEAKER_01: I have no idea.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: Julia has called me and stuff like if she's walking home Mhmm.
SPEAKER_01: And she thinks something like she's watching her follower.
SPEAKER_01: She'll just call me
SPEAKER_00: and just just to have something on the phone.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: So that was kind of my theory of what miss calls it from, but I still don't know what happened at all.
SPEAKER_00: How often did she do that?
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I mean, a couple times a year.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: Just like Not She was on them.
SPEAKER_01: Stressed out.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Did she
SPEAKER_00: ever mention that she thought someone specifically was following her, or was it more like it's I just just getting creeped out?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: I just feel good.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Is there anything are you in frat at all?
SPEAKER_01: I'm part of one.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Part of what what which house?
SPEAKER_00: Has there been any kind of weird conflicts with people in the Greek system, anybody outside the Greek system?
SPEAKER_00: I mean, anything you can think of that might point us in the direction of who we'd be looking for.
SPEAKER_00: You know, any rivalries, any boyfriend, girlfriend drama that's gotten out of hand, anything like that?
SPEAKER_01: No.
SPEAKER_01: Not really.
SPEAKER_01: Everything's been pretty normal.
SPEAKER_00: K.
SPEAKER_00: K.
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna mention, I'm sure this is something that they could tell you too, but there's a lot of, like, people just coming in and out of their house all the time.
SPEAKER_01: Those guys, like, you know, they're well liked people and I think more than more people near the toe to their door than they should have.
SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
SPEAKER_01: No.
SPEAKER_01: But it's anything like that.
SPEAKER_01: Were they pretty good about locking their other doors?
SPEAKER_01: I believe so.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
SPEAKER_01: I know there's a sliding glass door in the back.
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if they keep that locked all the time.
SPEAKER_01: I also own a dog with Kaylee, and I don't know where he is.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Was he was he with Kaylee or at the house?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: What kind of dog is it?
SPEAKER_00: It's a mini goldendoodle.
SPEAKER_00: And he was there that last night?
SPEAKER_01: As far as I know, yeah.
SPEAKER_01: I heard that someone saw, like, a shadow when they took Murph I don't know who it was, but took Murphy to go pee outside before they went to
SPEAKER_00: bed.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: That's just what I heard from all the girls that was there.
SPEAKER_00: Who said that to you?
SPEAKER_00: Did she describe it all, or did she say she saw like, what what did she actually tell you?
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember?
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I just overheard that conversation with someone else, but she said that I don't know if it's Kaylee or her, but because it wasn't even part of the conversation.
SPEAKER_01: But she said there was a shadow, and they grabbed Murphy in one side and locked the door.
SPEAKER_01: I never thought of anything about it.
SPEAKER_01: Dog's name is Murphyston?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Do you know where he is or someone has
SPEAKER_00: no idea, man.
SPEAKER_00: I really don't.
SPEAKER_00: Well, we'll keep an eye out for him.
SPEAKER_00: We can let everybody know and watch out for him.
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
SPEAKER_00: Is he
SPEAKER_01: chipped at all in there?
SPEAKER_01: He's put, like, one No.
SPEAKER_00: He's not.
SPEAKER_00: No.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Is he, like, a medium sized, like yeah.
SPEAKER_01: It's about, like, gold pounds.
SPEAKER_01: Um, okay.
SPEAKER_00: So he said and and, again, you're not in trouble.
SPEAKER_00: I just gotta make sure I ask all the questions.
SPEAKER_01: She just got she's supposed to be moving to Texas for a job.
SPEAKER_00: Was there ever anybody that, like, hit on her at the bars or was texting her a lot or anything like that that would be seemed kinda out of the ordinary to you?
SPEAKER_01: An anesthetist takes up one.
SPEAKER_01: K.
SPEAKER_01: Who who is it?
SPEAKER_01: This is the man.
SPEAKER_01: How does he spell his last name?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: I think I think I don't think he was, that just acutely.
SPEAKER_01: I think he's just, like, kinda guy.
SPEAKER_01: He's just real flirtatious.
SPEAKER_00: Would he, like, text her, call her, or,
SPEAKER_01: I I just saw his Snapchat on her phone.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
SPEAKER_01: She comes.
SPEAKER_00: She she would show me.
SPEAKER_00: What kind of stuff was he saying?
SPEAKER_01: Just, hey.
SPEAKER_01: Just trying to get her to talk.
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01: Trying to initiate conversation.
SPEAKER_01: Did
SPEAKER_00: anyone in that group befriended?
SPEAKER_00: Did anybody ever tell you anything about stalking anyone aside from, obviously, Kaylee saying she, you know, like, would call you on occasion when she walks home.
SPEAKER_00: Anything you can think of where someone might have told you, hey.
SPEAKER_00: Like, this dude or this person, know, won't stop talking to me or looks at me funny in the comments or whatever.
SPEAKER_00: Anything like that you can think of?
SPEAKER_01: No.
SPEAKER_00: K.
SPEAKER_00: Do you know who who do you have anyone in mind you think would have done this?
SPEAKER_01: Mm-mm.
SPEAKER_01: No?
SPEAKER_01: I don't
SPEAKER_00: know.
SPEAKER_00: Alright.
SPEAKER_00: Um, last night, you said you saw Kaylee at the corner club.
SPEAKER_00: Right?
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Did she seem normal?
SPEAKER_00: Was she
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: She just came up to me, I said, what's up?
SPEAKER_01: And I don't even really remember what her they had, like, a thirty second conversation.
SPEAKER_00: But did it seem normal?
SPEAKER_00: Did it seem off?
SPEAKER_01: Did it Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't seem very normal.
SPEAKER_01: Good.
SPEAKER_01: These are the two rungings to each other on weekends.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: So, um, you said you weren't sure if she left before or after.
SPEAKER_00: You did?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Know for sure.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Was it packed in there last night?
SPEAKER_00: Was it I'm good.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: I had
SPEAKER_01: her stop letting people in.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_00: You need make that place bigger.
SPEAKER_00: Anybody at the corner club that you
SPEAKER_01: saw odd?
SPEAKER_01: No.
SPEAKER_01: I just saw her with her friends, like, the whole time I was barely.
SPEAKER_00: Alright.
SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't think I have any further questions for you right now.
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
SPEAKER_00: Just I've I've been telling the girls the same thing.
SPEAKER_00: This kind of thing affects everybody different.
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
SPEAKER_00: So you may be kind of just, you know, apathetic about it for a while.
SPEAKER_00: It may hit you all of a sudden.
SPEAKER_00: It's going to hit you sooner or later, okay, just maybe different than other people.
SPEAKER_00: Alright?
SPEAKER_00: Um, so just understand that the campus has a lot of resources for you guys.
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
SPEAKER_00: Um, we have a lot of resources.
SPEAKER_00: We have a chaplain.
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we could put you in touch with counselors.
SPEAKER_00: But do me a favor amongst your friend group, don't let anybody not work through this.
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
SPEAKER_00: If you see somebody starting to, um, yourself included, if you start internalizing it and not wanting to deal with it or see somebody doing things in an unhealthy way, I