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SPEAKER_00: Just gonna record our conversation here. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Let me real quick make sure I get your info right. SPEAKER_00: It's Right? SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh. SPEAKER_00: Is your driver's license out of Idaho? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: You don't need it. SPEAKER_00: It's all good. SPEAKER_00: What's your date of birth? SPEAKER_01: 2003. SPEAKER_01: Cool. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: And where are living at now? SPEAKER_01: I am at the fraternity here, but I also live. SPEAKER_00: Gotcha. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: And I'm not a fraternity guy? SPEAKER_00: Awesome. SPEAKER_00: What year are you? SPEAKER_00: Are you? SPEAKER_00: What are you studying? SPEAKER_00: What do you wanna do? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Awesome job. SPEAKER_01: Easy, man. SPEAKER_00: Good deal. SPEAKER_00: Got plans for summer? SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_00: We like, here in town or down? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Good, sir. SPEAKER_00: That'd be good, man. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: So we'll just get into this, man. SPEAKER_00: First, I'd like to ask you kinda what the background is, how you knew Maddie, Kaylee, Ethan, and Xana. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: And just kinda just whatever you have to tell me on that front. SPEAKER_01: We would always just hang out, like, all the time since I was a freshman, they'd come over to the house, more like Xana. SPEAKER_01: That was before she was dating Ethan and she would just hang out with us all the time. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: Last year I was starting to hang out with one of the roommates, Bethany, all the time. SPEAKER_01: So I would go there all the time and hang out at the house. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_01: That's pretty much it. SPEAKER_01: Pretty much it, Would SPEAKER_00: you go, like, if they had get togethers or parties and stuff on the weekends, would you go over there? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Of course. SPEAKER_00: So you said you started hanging out with Bethany that year, that 2022 would have been? SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Did you have relationship with her, girlfriend, seeing each other, anything like that? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: I just kinda seen each other. SPEAKER_01: Seeing each other? SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: How's she doing? SPEAKER_00: Have you talked to her recently? SPEAKER_01: She's good. SPEAKER_01: She's been where is it? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: She lives there. SPEAKER_00: Doing alright, though, all things considered? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Good. SPEAKER_01: Doing good. SPEAKER_01: That's good to hear. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: So, basically, just kinda you're so you guys are you're just in that circle of friends. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_00: Kinda Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Is that SPEAKER_00: fair fair to say? SPEAKER_00: Exactly. SPEAKER_00: Do you know of anything that anybody ever mentioned about people outside the house at 11:22? SPEAKER_00: Any strange occurrences? SPEAKER_00: Anything like that that you can think of? SPEAKER_01: Not at all. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: I have no idea. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Alright. SPEAKER_00: When when they would have get togethers there, about how many people do you think would show up usually? SPEAKER_01: It wasn't a big place. SPEAKER_01: Maybe, like, 20 people max. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: And that's, like, pushing it probably. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: For that house. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Was it pretty, like like, pretty tight as far as you guys knowing who was coming and going? SPEAKER_00: Or were people kinda coming and going freely? SPEAKER_00: How did that work? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Pretty much people coming and going freely. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: If someone came in there that you guys didn't know, would you do you think someone would've picked up on it? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Think so? SPEAKER_00: Definitely. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: So best as you can remember, right, granted it's over a year well over a year now since this all took place, but that night prior, so it would've been Saturday night. SPEAKER_00: Can you just kinda talk me through your timeline? SPEAKER_00: Like, did you see him that night? SPEAKER_00: Just best you can remember what happened that Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Night leading up to It SPEAKER_01: was a game day. SPEAKER_01: So I was drinking water. SPEAKER_01: So that always plays a factor in my memory. SPEAKER_01: Fair enough. SPEAKER_01: That day, I know we went over there in the morning, probably ten. SPEAKER_00: And that's to 11:22? SPEAKER_00: Yes. SPEAKER_00: To the house? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Yes. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: That was like a brunch, like, meet up. SPEAKER_01: And then that was the last time I was at the house and then I went over to the whites, we all did Good. SPEAKER_01: To hang out at a sorority, like, out of house place. SPEAKER_01: Then pretty sure we just went to the game and then went home back to the fraternity. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: My fraternity of his. SPEAKER_00: So the Whites which sorority was it that was throwing the party at the Whites again? SPEAKER_01: Allen Fee. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Walt Kidd was it. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: So you went to the Whites and then you said you went to the game? SPEAKER_00: Yep. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Were you there early, late, like, show up halftime? SPEAKER_00: Do you remember? SPEAKER_01: Pretty sure I went, like, halftime. SPEAKER_01: Didn't even go into the game. SPEAKER_01: Went to the tailgate. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: I've been out there for quite a while because they're always partying there. SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah. SPEAKER_00: And were any of the were any of them there with you at the tailgate? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Who all was there with you? SPEAKER_01: I honestly don't even remember. SPEAKER_01: I think we all went. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So then do you remember what time you left or on or abouts? SPEAKER_01: I honestly am not clear. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: That's fine, man. SPEAKER_01: Did SPEAKER_00: you stay the whole time? SPEAKER_00: Like, was the game letting out, or did you guys leave before the game let out? SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: It's all good, man. SPEAKER_00: I get it. SPEAKER_01: That was a long time ago too. SPEAKER_01: My memory's nothing good. SPEAKER_00: And so once you guys left the game, do you remember anything about what their plans were, where they were going, anything like that? SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm. SPEAKER_00: No? SPEAKER_01: I know they went to the club, think. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_01: Kaylee and Matic did. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: And then you left the game and went where? SPEAKER_01: Just back to And SPEAKER_00: kinda talk me through the rest of your evening that night. SPEAKER_00: Do remember anything about it? SPEAKER_01: Pretty sure we just went back, hung out, ate food. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Went to bed. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Didn't didn't leave that you remember? SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay. SPEAKER_00: No. SPEAKER_00: And then when did you next morning, when did you hear about what happened? SPEAKER_01: One of my fraternity brothers, like, barged into my room because I would, like, stay the night at the at Bethany's k. SPEAKER_01: Quite a bit. SPEAKER_01: So they saw the vandal alert that the homicides happened on King Street. SPEAKER_01: So then one of my fraternity brothers came into my room making sure all there. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: Woke me up. SPEAKER_01: Really hungover. SPEAKER_01: Didn't even know what was going on. SPEAKER_01: But we had no clue. SPEAKER_01: So we were just like hanging out in one room altogether. SPEAKER_01: And then one of my one of our buddies came in and told us a little bit about it. SPEAKER_01: Probably like 12. SPEAKER_01: K. SPEAKER_00: So how often do you do you think you stay the night at the at Bethany's? SPEAKER_01: I'd say no. SPEAKER_01: We'd stay, like, three times. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: Gotcha. SPEAKER_00: And she never said anything about strange occurrences or anything going on? SPEAKER_01: Not at all. SPEAKER_01: No? SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Anything else you remember about that day, particularly the day after? SPEAKER_00: Like, once you guys found out? SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_01: We were kinda just all in shock just sitting there Mhmm. SPEAKER_01: With each other. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: I think Mike's kinda like most everybody else was. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: And I think we would just all went home the next day. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_00: Did you have any communication with Bethany after the match? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: A little bit. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Did she Making sure she's good. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Did she tell you anything after, like, about what happened or anything like that? SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh. SPEAKER_01: No? SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_01: I didn't really wanna talk to her about it, figure it out. SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: No. SPEAKER_00: I blame you. SPEAKER_00: Is there anything else you can think of that I might need to know or would wanna know to include in our conversation here? SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: So just to make sure I got it all clear. SPEAKER_00: So you hung out with Zayah pretty much or pretty frequently freshman year. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: And then sophomore year, you started seeing Bethany casually. SPEAKER_00: Is that a fair fair Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Characterization? SPEAKER_00: Stayed the night three times maybe. SPEAKER_00: No strange occurrences. SPEAKER_00: 20 people would show up ish at parties and stuff like that. SPEAKER_00: Um, but you guys you think you would know if somebody wasn't welcome showed up. SPEAKER_00: So then that Saturday, you said you guys went to eleven twenty two for brunch. SPEAKER_00: Do you know what time that would have been? SPEAKER_00: Like, you're talking like mid morning or late morning? SPEAKER_00: Do have any idea? SPEAKER_01: Mid morning. SPEAKER_00: Mid morning. SPEAKER_00: So ten nine, ten is what I have? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_01: Wasn't much of a brunch or just like meet up and drink a little before we went over to the Whites. SPEAKER_01: Pregame? SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: So then you went to the Whites. SPEAKER_00: Do you remember what apartment that was or which side of the Whites it And you were all at that one? SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: K. SPEAKER_00: Then you went to the game, did some tailgating halftime to unknown win. SPEAKER_00: And then once you left, said you just went straight back to the fraternity and ate some food and went to sleep. SPEAKER_00: Right? SPEAKER_01: Yep. SPEAKER_01: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Cool, man. SPEAKER_00: I don't have much else for you. SPEAKER_00: If you think of something, you have my cell phone number, but there's my card. SPEAKER_00: Absolutely. SPEAKER_00: Please feel free to get ahold of me or if if you need anything at all, let me know. SPEAKER_00: Obviously, we're trying to make sure we kinda as best as we can with the gag work, keep everybody informed on what's going on. SPEAKER_00: Obviously, there's not a lot we can tell anyone at this point. SPEAKER_00: But if you need something, we got two camp officers. SPEAKER_00: You guys are more than welcome to go chat with them too. SPEAKER_00: And like I said, you SPEAKER_01: have my cell phone number. SPEAKER_00: So if you need something, hit me up. SPEAKER_00: Sweet. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_00: Cool, man. SPEAKER_00: Well, appreciate you coming down. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: If I have any further questions, I'll just, you know, we'll do if that's alright. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_00: Cool. SPEAKER_00: You guys are almost done for the year. SPEAKER_00: Yep.